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Democrat's lie and use fake news to defend themselves on every other issue, I guess I shouldn't be surprised they tried it with the schumer shutdown.

I've heard some real gems from a few people, on and off this site, who shall remain nameless, listed, in no particular order, are some of my favorite whoppers. 1) "hurr the republicans have a majority so it's their fault" [spoiler]Anyone saying this is either being intentionally dishonest, or they have no idea how the senate actually works. You need 60 votes to get this done. Republicans have 51 seats. It is literally impossible for them to get this done without at least 9 democrat votes. 10 actually, because mcstain is absent apparently.[/spoiler] 2) "but what about when the republicans shut down the government lololol hypocrites" [spoiler]The irony is that the people spewing this complete drivel, are they themselves being hypocrites while pointing their fingers for hypocrisy. Let me explain, the republicans shut down the government last time. It was a bad idea then just like it's a bad idea now. Liberals don't get to have it both ways and act like it's okay when they do it but it's the end of the world if republicans do it. Republicans wanted to get their way with obamacare just like democrats wanted to get their way with DACA. A minority in the senate prevented the government from being funded in both cases. [/spoiler] 3) "hurr but trump/somebody said it was the president's fault last time because the president is supposed to lead! [spoiler]The reality is whoever said that was -blam!-ing wrong. next.[/spoiler] 4) "hurrrrrrrrrrrrrr but.. but... the republicans should be willing to compromise with the dems!" [spoiler]They have been trying to negotiate for awhile now. This has been coming for awhile now. This whole conversation is already a compromise from the president who literally campaigned on repealing DACA outright... The idea that dems, being a minority in the house of representatives AND the senate, with a republican in the white house, have a legitimate right to demand complete surrender on this issue is lunacy. They were demanding DACA with no strings attached... No border security, no cuts to chain migration, the visa lottery, nothing. Screw trump and his whole immigration platform. That was their demand. What concessions were they willing to make? [/spoiler] 5) "but... but... bbut muh lindsey graham/jeff flake bill!" [spoiler] First of all, the people fixated on this turd log are painting it like it was some hugely supported bipartisan solution... No. It had the support of like, two republicans out of 51, and the white house has said multiple times that any DACA solution must include things that... were not included at all in this turd. Lindsey Graham is a corrupt establishment shill, bought and paid for by the big business interests that stand to benefit from a massive supply of cheap labor. And even if it wasn't a turd, which it was, it couldn't have possibly been ready in time to avoid the government shutdown anyway.[/spoiler]
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