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Bearbeitet von K1dP5ycho: 11/25/2017 9:28:34 PM
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It's Time To Be Honest With Yourselves

Bungie Forums, it's time to come clean. You have been going on and on, since Week 3 at the very least, about everything that is wrong about Destiny 2. Constant posts containing entitlement and misconception about this two-month-old game that seem to be bred from some warped portions of your minds. Never mind all the advancements in the gameplay, the story, the cutscenes, the new locations, enemy animations and types, weapons and armor, you just needed to bitch about anything that this game has to offer. There's no end; we've got people on one side, who are complaining because the game wants people to have a break, go outside and live their lives, and we have people on the other side who are just so frustratingly dull that they cannot grasp the simple notion that Destiny was NEVER an MMO game to begin with. All this demand for more rewards, more power, more balance (but not THIS balance we have where you only suck because you just plain suck!) and more to do is just proving, once and for all, what is truly wrong with Destiny. You are all as [i]addicted[/i] as [b][u]crackheads.[/u][/b] Seriously! Your obsession for the game to always be perfect matches the attitudes of people on illegal drugs! Always looking for a better dose, an improved high, some way to deliver that rush even faster than the normal and regular way provided. When you cannot get any of that, you lash out at the dealer and those around you because you all think, in your tweaked-out and drug-deprived state, that it is such a good idea! It isn't. You're just acting like a dickhead. You could preach about some shit like "meeting the demands of the consumer", but you consume way too much for your point to be even valid! Your appetites are far too large for a series like Destiny to handle because the games are not of the scale that an actual MMORPG has. You are far better off playing Warframe (like everyone and their many multi-accounts continue to claim) or perhaps actually playing an MMO like Final Fantasy XIV to get your new, daily dose of Loot/Crack. Do yourselves a favour, a HUGE favour, and delete your Bungie accounts. Trade in all of your copies of Destiny and Destiny 2 (or sell them, IDGAF), then go over and buy yourselves a freaking copy of World of Warcraft. Or any MMO, actually. You are wasting your time and energy on trying (not very hard) to make a video game into another video game that it was never meant to be in the first place. Quit while you are ahead. Edit: TL;DR version for all of the people who are too doped out to read: [spoiler]You're all addicted, suffering from withdrawl and it is making you all look like total idiots.[/spoiler]

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  • Bearbeitet von Crunchyblack: 11/24/2017 9:25:04 AM
    people are only mad because of how much they loved the first game and how great this game could have been had they just improved on what the first game offered. Simple as that. Sucks watching an IP die early due to poor development decisions at the top. Not a good introduction for bungie into the PC market....where MMO games like this have been done for a very long time. To me it feels like the main decision maker had never played a PC game, and never bothered to look into successful MMO games to see how they did things and why they worked. Simple things like: 1. no chat in game, which ensured no community would exist in game, then tieing endgame into needing a community to access it. 2. giving players boring tokens after epic fights that they have to hord up then run to an NPC and feed tons of them in for a boring purple loot box... 3. putting fun chests all over the world with just a token in them making them not fun. 4. Having a currency system called glimmer for which there are like three things to use it on, none of which are exciting or interesting. 5. the mod system contain only boring effects that do not impact gameplay in any tangible way. 6.Having armor be nothing more than deco with a power number and mod slot that doesnt do anything fun. 7. a skill system that doesnt matter and offers little choice and no depth... 8. Introducing your IP to the PC market with a storyline that feels like a side story arch...its like i dont even know what the traveller is....still...you could have introduced us to the lore and made people care about it. These things are simple, amature, issues that should have never left the drawing board...hell should have never left the brainstorm session. These issues do not match the quality of the audio/visuals/gunplay of the game. The above mentioned decisions put Bungie's interesting IP at risk. Waiting 6 months for a potential band-aid? People will have moved on by then. Am i, a pc gamer not familiar with bungie, interested in DLC? Nah. Would i ever pay AAA prices for one of their games at launch or pre order? Hell no. Again, not a great introduction to the PC market as a developer. I dont think it was a terrible game as a whole...just lacked anything with gameplay memorable or interesting...just a pretty world and good sound i spent a few hours for a couple weekends in. Im not mad, but i see the potential that was there, and from others passion i know they -blam!-ed up big time.

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    • I don't know man. A wall of text like that kinda screams crackhead from the other side of the house IMO. People are gonna throw it out there...it's a PUBLIC forum, yo! 🙄 Everyone complaining about complainers has a mute button. Use it.

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    • Bearbeitet von Der_Peevmeister: 11/26/2017 7:49:21 PM
      I can quit any time I want! ..and I have. Haven’t played in weeks. Sad really. I really enjoy the story of the [i]Destiny[/i] universe.

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    • [quote]Quit while you are ahead.[/quote] Many already had, what about you?

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    • Yeah. Unfortunately bungie has infected a lot of minds on this forum. Bunch of bungie butt puppets.

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      • You are -blam!-ing adorable.

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      • Destiny 1 actually consulted a behavioral pyschologist to come up with a formula to keep players logged on. And it worked like a charm. Bungie/Activision must have found their conscience during the development of D2, but the damage is already done. They created legions of dopamine and Skinner box addicts. You take away their crack and substitute it for Advil, what do you think is going to happen?

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      • Whenever I hear Destiny is a looter shooter I compare it to another looter shooter that actually did it right

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      • You are sad man 😢

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      • From what I gathered a lot of people would have liked it to be more like Borderlands mixed with Halo with a shared world element thrown in that MMO's have as well. Borderlands did have a lot of content and worthwhile loot as well as a deep levels of customization that allowed for more as time went on. Destiny however, wound up being more like Halo with a bad loot system, bad progression system, and numbers/stats that don't really do much other than bar players from content.

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        • Of course people expect it to be better and nearly perfect. How the hell do you have years of experience with Halo and a few years with D1 and you think this sequel is a worthy outcome? You should expect more from a game that can be completed in a week and that's suppose to give you a reason to constantly replay. Keep throwing your wallet, fanboy.

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        • Bearbeitet von Legion: 11/24/2017 5:55:43 AM
          I still enjoy Destiny though & occasionally play it. I also play FFXIV and am sick of that so I picked up 2 new games. Although FFXIV just released a new game mode for PvP a few nights ago and it's like a Moba. No, I will not sell and I will continue to stand neutral, tbh it is only an opinion.

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        • What’s wrong with addiction if it doesn’t do anything to your life lol. Anyway, this is just a post whining at people for caring more than you. I get it, you lack standards, but trying to make people feel bad for caring more than you is just sad lol.

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        • Bearbeitet von wilberzon: 11/24/2017 11:15:41 AM
          👊

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        • Bearbeitet von Mr Spiderhead: 11/23/2017 9:11:13 PM
          Destiny is, and always has been, based on the idea of a Skinner box. The basic fundamental of the gameplay is the cycle of gameplay > reward > harder gameplay > better reward. It is meant to be addictive, that's the very basis of its design. Destiny 1, for all its faults, got this aspect of the game mostly right. Destiny 2, for all the basic stuff it got right (I'll take creative exotics like the Tractor Cannon over the majority of D1s exotics), breaks the cycle in a way that causes the core mechanic to crumble. Instead of rewards facilitating a feeling of progression (such as raid gear having perks that make the raid easier), no activities reward gear that is better in anything other than (maybe) a small boost to light level. If Bungie had got this aspect right (Ie end game loot that still gives a feeling of progression or increased power) then almost every other minor issue would be seen as just that. There were ways around some of the issues too. They could still have taken away random perk rolls on weapons if the mod system for weapons was more interesting than just changing the element and people would likely have been okay with it. Imagine how much more interesting grinding for an exotic weapon mod would be if it gave the weapon specific perks and you had to choose what weapon to put it on. I'm still not convinced that wasn't the original intent but got pulled for balance issues.

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        • Postulate this question, and please be honest in your answer. In the case of Destiny 2, who is the "Dealer"?

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          • Thought it is true we can't just expect them to fix everything, it's much better to show them what we think is wrong so that they can fix it, than to just ignore it and stop playing.

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          • Can’t tell if you’re serious, stupid, or a soccer mom. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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            • Agreed 100 percent. The way I see it is if I go play a mario game I am expecting a platforming game in the mario universe. If I play a racing game, I'm expecting a racer. If I play an rpg then I expect an rpg. And with Destiny I expect a sci fi shooter with some light rpg elements, some co op activities, and pvp as well. And that's exactly what I get. Not sure what the big deal is really. People should know by now what Destiny is and isn't.

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            • Way tldr.

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            • tldr lol

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            • ...lol

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            • Personally I enjoy the game but I definitely agree that a lot of poor design decisions and steps backward were made with it. Its relatively obvious that bungie has done everything possibly to artificially I extend the grind in ways that simply are not fun. Loot cooldowns, xp cooldowns, oversimplified loot pools, vendors no longer actually selling gear but everything being essentially a random loot crate, the token system, so on and so forth. At the same time, we've lost a lot of the feeling of power and choice that d1 brought. I used to have a ton of fun speed running heroic strikes and feeling like a boss - now I struggle with superimposed nightfall timers and watered down class abilities. I will say that I think PvP is much better now - I never enjoyed it in d1 - but the options for PvP have been butchered. Same goes for strikes - we can't pick our map, our game type, our team size, or anything else anymore. The game is decent, but it should have been so much better, and that is where all the disappointment comes in.

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