Hey all - Pwnzor here, Kill Confirmed represent. Frankly I feel strange. The Destiny 2 experience seems for the first time ... hopeless. I have defended Bungie for 3 years on every fault. Now.. I just don't know.
After the Prestige Raid yesterday, I had one of those stare towards the sky with Crawling in my Skin playing as I question my commitment for the last 2 months - 3 years. For the first time ever, I feel Bungie has won - making their $60-110 buy in per player, and not giving the players what was so proudly delivered in the years of D1. Game is bought, with expansion pass, and the $10 starter Eververse package, and thats all they wanted it seems --- which makes sense from a business standpoint. Maximum profit for minimal effort.
I will still continue to play, mostly Trials and PVP cause I enjoy them a lot in any game, but there are real issues that need to be addressed.
[b]Quick Backstory (slight boasting to give you perspective):[/b]
I never thought I'd see the day where I made a post like this. I have played Destiny in its entirety since its inception in 2014. I was one of the first 50 Fireteams to complete Vault of Glass, Crotas End, POE 32/34/35 (night 1 of HOW), Kings Fall. I was the Worlds First Titan to Solo Crota (just google Mr Pwnzor). I have gone Flawless as many times as I've stepped into Trial to try. I have completed the D2 raid on 2 separate accounts over 15 times. I have collected every exotic in all versions of the game.
[u][b]NOW GETTING INTO THE ISSUES[/b][/u]
On a given forum, there is normally a complaint about a few things that could use tuning. When you isolate those issues, they can be defended by a majority of hardcore players. When you compile the list and really stare at it, it's really just not something I can defend.
If the technology and innovation for the below existed in D1, why have so many things have been left out of D2?
[b]"It's Crazy to Me” (My gripe with D2):[/b]
[1] It's crazy to me that Power Level doesnt matter
[2] It's crazy to me that they removed Weapon Rolls for replayability
[3] It's crazy to me that 90% of Guns are useless regardless of [2]
[4] It's crazy to me that Armor Ornaments no longer exist in game
[5] It's crazy to me that Sparrow collection comes entirely from Eververse
[6] It's crazy to me that Shader collection (less Trials and Raid) comes entirely from Eververse
[7] It's crazy to me that Ship collection comes entirely from Eververse
[8] It's crazy to me Token Systems become irrelevant after playing for 2 days
[9] It's crazy to me that there are no Strike Specific Loot Options
[10] It's crazy to me that there isn't a 6v6, 3v3, or additional PVP options
[11] It's crazy to me that there are no Secret Exotics or Easter Eggs (Oryx Basketball Court)
[12] It's crazy to me that Exotics look unique, feel unique, but do not act unique
[13] It's crazy to me that Max Power Level can be reached with never doing endgame
[14] It's crazy to me that there are no means of World Collection (Ghost, Calcified Frags, etc).
[15] It's crazy to me that Raids give no incentive for replay-ability (seriously - I used to farm the SH!T out of raids for Ships, Raid Coveted Exotics, Shaders, etc.)
[16] It's crazy to me that Vault of Glass is 3 years older and yet seems 3 years ahead of Leviathan
[17] It's crazy to me that Crotas End is 3 years older and yet seems 3 years ahead of Leviathan
[18] It's crazy to me that Kings Fall is 2 years older and yet seems 2 years ahead of Leviathan
[19] It's crazy to me that Hard Mode (and frankly Normal Mode) Raid are simply for Vanity
[20] It's crazy to me that Leviathan Raid is a Gameshow and not a Raid
[21] It's crazy to me that Factions do not always exist
[22] It's crazy to me that I have 2700 Legendary Shards and nothing to spend them on
[23] It's crazy to me that no one looks forward to Xur
[24] It's crazy to me that there is no arena like POE
[25] It's crazy to me that there is no open world arena like Court of Oryx/Archons Forge
[26] It's crazy to me that Sparrow Racing isnt in the game
[27] It's crazy to me that Sparrows cant do backflips like the Hotwheels Sparrow TDB model
[28] It's crazy to me that the meta leans towards 1 path 1 subclass for each class
[29] It's crazy to me that Planetary Materials are useless
[30] It's crazy to me that gear doesn't require being upgraded (took legit 3 seconds)
[31] It's crazy to me that Trials isnt even hard this year
[32] It's crazy to me that Public Events, Lost Sectors, Chest Looting, Adventures - are all useless
[33] It's crazy to me that this Game is so casual it has driven all of my best mates away
[34] It's crazy to me that I will continue to play with hopes of it becoming better
[35] It's crazy to me that I can even see myself playing a different game soon, only 1 month after release.
TL:DR
The technology and innovation for the above existed in D1, why have so many things have been left out of D2. If it is a means of having people pay for more Content, then that is just wrong. Bungie has made the game too casual in an attempt to cater to everyone. Even the casuals find it too casual.
Hoping there is a light at the end of this Dark, Dark tunnel. I can guarantee one thing - if there isn't a raid being release in the December DLC, alongside a complete loot system and token system overhaul, then this game is going to die.
EDIT: All - just wanted to say thank you all for reading and providing your comments, concerns, and criticisms. We have been top trending for almost 24 hours. Trials has been canceled since this post (crazy?). I will continue to play PVP but let’s hope bungie makes the little changes we would enjoy so much!
EDIT 2: Guardians, we’ve reach 1000 upvotes which is truly something else! I wish I could respond to all of your questions and concerns but there are just so many posts now. I’ll give some quick general responses here ——
I think pvp is fun and don’t have many issues (I know many do), I think selling old features as DLC is cash grabbing, I love destiny still just want the inherently needed changes, population should not be dropping this fast, any comprehensive MMORPG in history has expanded its world not shrunk it regardless if they dumbed it down, Trials being canceled makes me sad; all being said I am GOING TO STAY HOPEFUL.
[b]ADDITIONALLY -[/b] I have put a job application in with Bungie. As an avid video gamer and dedicated player since Halo 1, with professional experience in WOW and other titles, I feel I could help the team. I am a mechanical and control systems engineer doing project management in New York City currently. My background and professional experience certainly makes me qualified. This has always been a dream of mine - I haven’t given up yet, so maybe I can help. Hope Luke Smith or Cozmo see this and spread the word lol.
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1 AntwortenI understand where you are coming from... I have over 250 hard mode raid completions in D1... However it seems like you are having issues with things that came to D1 after vanilla launch and was added to the gm later. I personally don't have many issues with is there and not there from D1, I feel like those things are coming back in 1 form or another and don't blame them for not putting all that stuff back in D2 at launch. I completely agree with point 1, but point 2 I dont agree with since most people only kept 1 version of the gun in the 1st place especially due to space, I don't agree 90% of guns are useless, I think the Kinetic/energy format opens up drastically different play styles and its not like people varied that much from there normal load out not withstanding there where alot more weapons to choose from when you consider 4 different raid, 4 trails, and strike and other activity weapon load outs to choose from. Sparrows? Who cares how big your collection is, you can only ride one at a time and you have 4 types to choose from, I couldn't care less about having 6 different sparrows with 160 speed that spawn instantly... I just want the exotic version and don't really care that there all at eververse b/c I would prefere them to be all in one place to be honest. No to mention sparrow racing is a special event that will come, so why complain that its not there at launch when it took years to get in the 1st place? I agree with 8, 9, and 10... Not sure what you mean by "secret exotics" but if I personally couldnt aquire it I really didnt care about it (I assume youre talking about warcliff in D1) same goes for easter eggs, they did nothing towards gameplay. As far as factions go... I kinda like what they did b/c it made the factions mean more and made it exciting for a couple of hrs at least when they virtually meant nothing in D1, I feel it could have been fleshed out a little better but I like the direction its going. I also don't agree in the slightest about the Leviathan raid. I think its a great raid that brings something new to the table and doesnt function like all the previous raids. I like the "game show" aspect of it b/c it makes sense in the context of the raid itself cause where being tested, what better way to do that then with deadly games. I also love the concept of the underbelly which is also vastly different way to move around the raid that we have never exp b4. I personnally feel that most people who complain about this raid have that nostalgic bug, where its always hard for anything new to compete with what was familiar and memorable from your 1st time attempting it and making memories with your buddies that you went though the struggle with. (B4 everyone just waited for buddies/youtubers to complete the raid and watched the best strats to beat it). I agree with 22 and 33 but most of the other stuff is complaining b/c all the things that took years to make its way to D1 is not in D2 and that argument is non sense in the 1st month of release. Most people only have a couple hrs to play daily, and the people whom are complaining is b/c they have already put in 2x's to 3x's the amount of time than the average player is able and now having a issue that there isn't anything to do. I purposely took my time with D2 for that very reason, and I still have twice the amount of time that friends with 8-9 hr jobs and have kids can possibly play. its hard to make content for eveyone, we all know that, but look at the larger picture, most likely you did a month worth of gameplay possibly in the 1st week or 2 of release and thats y people are having so many issues with it. My biggest gripe is the prestige raid/nightfall in relation to trails b/c they both represent the highest challenge in each respective game mode yet trails is far more rewarding than PvE activities. The rewards for prestige at this time are a joke, a virtual slap in the face for completing these activities. I have a big problem with this especially considering the dups I get in this game, I dont even wanna attempt another one after just getting a golden crown, skin for shotgun, chest and leg armor (which is in no way special, just like all other armor of same class, it just looks different). I personally feel there is no reason to prestige the raid, its meaningless and doesnt do anything other than make the raid far more difficult for less b/c you get no weapons what so ever, even reg raid weapons. After 12(normal)+1(prestige)=13 completions across all characters since launch and havent even gotten a full set or normal raid armor for any of my class or the hand cannon either b/c I keep getting the samethings over and over.