Hey all - Pwnzor here, Kill Confirmed represent. Frankly I feel strange. The Destiny 2 experience seems for the first time ... hopeless. I have defended Bungie for 3 years on every fault. Now.. I just don't know.
After the Prestige Raid yesterday, I had one of those stare towards the sky with Crawling in my Skin playing as I question my commitment for the last 2 months - 3 years. For the first time ever, I feel Bungie has won - making their $60-110 buy in per player, and not giving the players what was so proudly delivered in the years of D1. Game is bought, with expansion pass, and the $10 starter Eververse package, and thats all they wanted it seems --- which makes sense from a business standpoint. Maximum profit for minimal effort.
I will still continue to play, mostly Trials and PVP cause I enjoy them a lot in any game, but there are real issues that need to be addressed.
[b]Quick Backstory (slight boasting to give you perspective):[/b]
I never thought I'd see the day where I made a post like this. I have played Destiny in its entirety since its inception in 2014. I was one of the first 50 Fireteams to complete Vault of Glass, Crotas End, POE 32/34/35 (night 1 of HOW), Kings Fall. I was the Worlds First Titan to Solo Crota (just google Mr Pwnzor). I have gone Flawless as many times as I've stepped into Trial to try. I have completed the D2 raid on 2 separate accounts over 15 times. I have collected every exotic in all versions of the game.
[u][b]NOW GETTING INTO THE ISSUES[/b][/u]
On a given forum, there is normally a complaint about a few things that could use tuning. When you isolate those issues, they can be defended by a majority of hardcore players. When you compile the list and really stare at it, it's really just not something I can defend.
If the technology and innovation for the below existed in D1, why have so many things have been left out of D2?
[b]"It's Crazy to Me” (My gripe with D2):[/b]
[1] It's crazy to me that Power Level doesnt matter
[2] It's crazy to me that they removed Weapon Rolls for replayability
[3] It's crazy to me that 90% of Guns are useless regardless of [2]
[4] It's crazy to me that Armor Ornaments no longer exist in game
[5] It's crazy to me that Sparrow collection comes entirely from Eververse
[6] It's crazy to me that Shader collection (less Trials and Raid) comes entirely from Eververse
[7] It's crazy to me that Ship collection comes entirely from Eververse
[8] It's crazy to me Token Systems become irrelevant after playing for 2 days
[9] It's crazy to me that there are no Strike Specific Loot Options
[10] It's crazy to me that there isn't a 6v6, 3v3, or additional PVP options
[11] It's crazy to me that there are no Secret Exotics or Easter Eggs (Oryx Basketball Court)
[12] It's crazy to me that Exotics look unique, feel unique, but do not act unique
[13] It's crazy to me that Max Power Level can be reached with never doing endgame
[14] It's crazy to me that there are no means of World Collection (Ghost, Calcified Frags, etc).
[15] It's crazy to me that Raids give no incentive for replay-ability (seriously - I used to farm the SH!T out of raids for Ships, Raid Coveted Exotics, Shaders, etc.)
[16] It's crazy to me that Vault of Glass is 3 years older and yet seems 3 years ahead of Leviathan
[17] It's crazy to me that Crotas End is 3 years older and yet seems 3 years ahead of Leviathan
[18] It's crazy to me that Kings Fall is 2 years older and yet seems 2 years ahead of Leviathan
[19] It's crazy to me that Hard Mode (and frankly Normal Mode) Raid are simply for Vanity
[20] It's crazy to me that Leviathan Raid is a Gameshow and not a Raid
[21] It's crazy to me that Factions do not always exist
[22] It's crazy to me that I have 2700 Legendary Shards and nothing to spend them on
[23] It's crazy to me that no one looks forward to Xur
[24] It's crazy to me that there is no arena like POE
[25] It's crazy to me that there is no open world arena like Court of Oryx/Archons Forge
[26] It's crazy to me that Sparrow Racing isnt in the game
[27] It's crazy to me that Sparrows cant do backflips like the Hotwheels Sparrow TDB model
[28] It's crazy to me that the meta leans towards 1 path 1 subclass for each class
[29] It's crazy to me that Planetary Materials are useless
[30] It's crazy to me that gear doesn't require being upgraded (took legit 3 seconds)
[31] It's crazy to me that Trials isnt even hard this year
[32] It's crazy to me that Public Events, Lost Sectors, Chest Looting, Adventures - are all useless
[33] It's crazy to me that this Game is so casual it has driven all of my best mates away
[34] It's crazy to me that I will continue to play with hopes of it becoming better
[35] It's crazy to me that I can even see myself playing a different game soon, only 1 month after release.
TL:DR
The technology and innovation for the above existed in D1, why have so many things have been left out of D2. If it is a means of having people pay for more Content, then that is just wrong. Bungie has made the game too casual in an attempt to cater to everyone. Even the casuals find it too casual.
Hoping there is a light at the end of this Dark, Dark tunnel. I can guarantee one thing - if there isn't a raid being release in the December DLC, alongside a complete loot system and token system overhaul, then this game is going to die.
EDIT: All - just wanted to say thank you all for reading and providing your comments, concerns, and criticisms. We have been top trending for almost 24 hours. Trials has been canceled since this post (crazy?). I will continue to play PVP but let’s hope bungie makes the little changes we would enjoy so much!
EDIT 2: Guardians, we’ve reach 1000 upvotes which is truly something else! I wish I could respond to all of your questions and concerns but there are just so many posts now. I’ll give some quick general responses here ——
I think pvp is fun and don’t have many issues (I know many do), I think selling old features as DLC is cash grabbing, I love destiny still just want the inherently needed changes, population should not be dropping this fast, any comprehensive MMORPG in history has expanded its world not shrunk it regardless if they dumbed it down, Trials being canceled makes me sad; all being said I am GOING TO STAY HOPEFUL.
[b]ADDITIONALLY -[/b] I have put a job application in with Bungie. As an avid video gamer and dedicated player since Halo 1, with professional experience in WOW and other titles, I feel I could help the team. I am a mechanical and control systems engineer doing project management in New York City currently. My background and professional experience certainly makes me qualified. This has always been a dream of mine - I haven’t given up yet, so maybe I can help. Hope Luke Smith or Cozmo see this and spread the word lol.
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Well said
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And I wanna throw out how underwhelming Iron Banner was it was just shell of what it use to be it use to be a special event we all looked forward to every month so sad! My own clan didn't care to play had to LFG
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Bearbeitet von AAAnoFOO4u: 10/19/2017 10:55:46 PMThis is the perfect post. F bungie for going backwards. I've never captured any DVR clips in D2....I still watch my D1 classics... 🎤 where have you gone Joe DiMaggio, this nation turns its lonely eyes to you....woo,woo,woo....joltin Joe has left and gone away....hey hey hey It's crazy to me....
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#23 hit hard. Xur was the closest thing we had to Santa. [b]WAS.[/b]
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Where were you when those of us in the community saw the crap on the wall LONG before you decided to post your post.......? Did you defend those who voiced their opinion and concern on the direction Bungie and the game were going, or did you ridicule them like so many have done.....? "Hoping there is a light at the end of this Dark, Dark tunnel. I can guarantee one thing - if there isn't a raid being release in the December DLC, alongside a complete loot system and token system overhaul, then this game is going to die." - Your eyes are not completely open. The game is already dead. The Bungie Studio that I grew up on since Halo Evolved died a LONG time ago. Its death spiral started during its down time between the transition from Microsoft and Activision. Its final nail was driven when the CORE of Bungie left or were fired.
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D1 is still there. If you deleted it you can always Re download it
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Sequels seldom live up to the original. Mostly only because originals introduce an entirely new universe. But over time people learn to appreciate them as a whole.
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2 AntwortenYep, there just needs more fun, and grinds for rewards. Level 15 faction exotic armour quests, faction ranks... class specific legendary/exotic weapon quests Fatebringer and vex m. To name a few rng drops from end game. It kept people keen to have fun and grind. Most people are saying this has changed to make it a better game for casuals, but don’t see how any of this makes the game less fun for casuals.
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After reading this I have concluded that you my sir are [spoiler]CRAZY!!![/spoiler] [spoiler]Also I agree[/spoiler]
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Insanely true post man!! It sounded so much like I feel about the current state of this game that I touched myself a little while reading this.... Is that bad??
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Read your full post. I too am disappointed with D2. Not that I’m not enjoying it but it feels like it needs more, I hope that’s not because of planned DLC (bungie plz no) I agree with nearly every point you mentioned (trails for me is hard but that might be because I’m part of team potato 😅) I hope bungie hears what we are saying and asking for improvement. I’ve been around since D1 beta in my freshman year and I have too defended its faults where I could. But I cannot do that anymore. I like D2 but it needs more, like a burger without a bun or a raid without good endgame loot (...) I honesty hope Cosmo sees this if he hasn’t already, help us D2 forums, you’re our only hope.
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I agree with everything. EXCEPT Trials is insanely difficult for me. I struggle to even get one win a week. My friends don't play it, and because I don't have that horse emblem, the experienced, competent players want nothing to do with me. Which leaves me to play it with randos who struggle to understand lines of sights, lanes, how/when to push, etc.
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What are you a YouTuber? We know your name it’s above your post. Not trying to sound like a jerk but seriously......come on back down to earth with the rest of us.
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[37] It's crazy to me that there no longer exist artifacts
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When you got your veteran reward emblems did you notice they took the extra effort to make the year one emblem plain and ugly?
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..bump.. ..[36]..it's crazy to alot of us..
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I like #34 = insanity..Lol Bottom line.. This sequel is a disaster, this franchise is bordering on failure. Luke Smith needs to be fired and a whole new dev team needs to be brought in to make this game the GOAT. D1 proved the groundwork and potential is in place. What an atrocity.
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Honestly, fk Bungie. I've been a loyal fan since Halo 1, stopped playing after they dropped Halo and also defended them on all fronts. Now they obviously have a bigger agenda to fk with the consumers heads. Fk u bungie, get ur sht together
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Answer to your question They want to give us all of the mentioned stuff in DLCs to try and make the casuals be like wow they listened. Meanwhile those of us that leave for a bit come back for D1 year 3 stuff we had to be happy for a few weeks. totally in agreement that this stuff they have going on now is going to kill it for us old gamers. Good post
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This game is just one REALLY BIG F**k you to their fan base. They basically took EVERYTHING that we loved about D1 and tossed in in the trash. Actually, let me rephrase that. They took everything we loved about D1 and put it away somewhere so it can be released as "DLC" and future "Quality of Life" updates...