"This new Meta rejects the vast majority of playstyles by enforcing Special Ammo loss on death."
LOL..............................
The shotgun meta was the LEAST dynamic meta - there was only ONE playstyle.
I stopped reading your post there.....
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One style that was dominant and highly used, I could use snipers and sidearms extremely well in the clever matador meta. In this Meta you don't even get that option, its side arm or icebreaker if you want to compete. Or if you want to be at a disadvantage and camp special boxes. Atleast I could snipe and adjust with out worrying.
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https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/223750050/0/0
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Bearbeitet von iDovahBear: 3/27/2017 7:48:37 PMBy making Shotgunning predominant, they made countermeasure archetypes like Sidearms and Fusions more effective. Up until this point they were fighting against Primaries and Snipers more regularly than Shotguns, likely making them less effective. I stopped using a Shotgun very early into the Meta because it put me within an enemy's killbox. Once you realized it was a matter of having the loadout with the greater killbox, I adapted. But this Special Ammo loss doesn't allow one to adapt except by grabbing a weapon with as many Ammo Conserving perks as possible. That is the 'adaptation' you speak of, because running Primaries clearly isn't a realistic solution. If running Primaries was the correct response to this Meta, people would have already started doing it. Ammo Conservation is the new Meta, it's not about complaining players need to 'adapt' because what you're really saying is they need to conform to arbitrary rules made out of ignorance. But all I'm saying is that's exactly what players are going to do. They're going to use Ammo Conserving perks, and they're going to hate the game for being so linear, for not truly giving the player a sense of freedom of choice between loadouts. You would do well to reconsider your position, you claim we're not adapting but that isn't the case, we are complaining that adapting to the Meta requires us to use weapons we don't want to use whatsoever. It's unfair to players in general. They needed a solution to the disparity between Primaries and Specials, but this wasn't it.
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I agreed with OP. Sidearms and Icebreaker bro... You must not play trials
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LOL.................................................... The shotguns meta allowed over 100 different playstyles. This one lets yu have 3
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VERY WRONG!!!!
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Not wrong!
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I play aggressive with a sniper now. That's NOT in the "meta". There is no meta bro. You can use anything
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Um... No... You really can't
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Then your bad!
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Don't be that guy -.-
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Bearbeitet von TheRainstate: 3/27/2017 6:00:12 PM[quote]LOL.................................................... The shotguns meta allowed over 100 different playstyles. This one lets yu have 3[/quote] Over 100 different play styles? hahahaha! Stupidest thing I have read all day! You had either Luna with Shotgun or you had Clever Dragon and Shotgun that's it, nothing else was viable. 100's of different play styles my ass. It was no better than what we have now.
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Depends on which shotgun meta is being referenced. the y1 (House of Wolves) shotgun meta was also a pulse rifle, hand cannon, fusion rifle, heavy ammo meta. But perfect rolls were harder to get then, especially pre HoW when you couldn't reroll stats.
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Bearbeitet von iDovahBear: 3/27/2017 7:51:10 PMNope, I ran 77 Wizard and baited Shotguns. Or I ran a Sidearm and abused my Melee with it in combination during close-quarters. I only used a Shotgun out of necessity during Rumble and sometimes Trials of Osiris, sparingly. 77 Wizard was probably my most used Special during the 'Shotgun' Meta. Yes I had a Eyasluna and Clever Dragon, but there was also Malok and even Hawksaw, Blind Perdition and the Suros Pulse of the same archetype. It was better diversity than we're seeing with Wormwood/Ice Breaker...
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Agreed. Most people are spewing BS that think the shotgun meta had variety. None of the top tier players were running anything other than handcannon/sniper or Clever/ shotgun. That was all I saw, and people running around the entire map not shooting a single. Damn. Primary bullet. This meta is far more fun. And ammo is not an issue. I have ammo LITERALLY EVERY MINUTE.
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opps liked your post by accident...lol
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Okay, don't care either way. Gooday!
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you too!😇
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No even close :/
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Bearbeitet von Slain: 3/27/2017 4:33:44 PM[quote]I stopped reading your post there.....[/quote] And at that moment you lost the ability to make a logical and informed response. That's the only thing you're proving. In what universe is the logic of "I disagree with the premise therefore I refuse to entertain it" even remotely intelligent? You stopped reading as soon as you saw something that dissents your view; how open minded of you.