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5/25/2016 11:09:06 PM
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Please stop comparing them 1: Because they are so different that they can be put into different game genres and 2: Despite battleborn actually being a good game it's just been swamped by all the publicity and praise from reviewers of overwatch
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  • I wish i did not compare them. Played the beta for Battleborn. Despised it so badly that i didn't bother with the Overwatch beta.

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  • Wait so you hated the Battleborn beta and because of that you didn't play the overwatch beta? Where's the sense in that? They are different games.

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  • Looks more OP is asking which the people of #gaming prefers.....not to compare, but to see how many like which.

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  • I realise that but in my second point I said that because of Blizzards good marketing, overwatch is getting way more attention so for a which is better poll, overwatch is always going to win simply because more people know about it

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  • Yes they're different but people can still compare the two. How the hell else would you figure out if you like one over the other??

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  • [quote]Please stop comparing them: 1: Because they are so different that they can be put in different game genres.[/quote] Oh really? What different game genres are they in, because to me they are both first-person character-based shooters with some MOBA elements. The only differences are that Battleborn has a single-player mode and some progression. [quote]2: Despite Battleborn actually being a good game it's just been swamped by all the publicity and praise from reviewers of overwatch[/quote] So if, like you said, they're different game genres, then why would Battleborn be swamped by overwatch? Also, Battleborn came out 3 weeks before overwatch did. Battleborn has entirely 6s and 7s, while overwatch has entirely 9s and 10s. Maybe overwatch is swamping Battleborn because it's a better game

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  • Battleborn [i]is actually[/i] a MOBA. Overwatch is more like TF2 which is an class and objective based shooter. They are two very different games which makes it awkward when people compare the two. As for scores? Those are from publications and it's highly possible ActiBlizz paid for those scores at this point. Players both seem to agree that Overwatch and Battleborn are about the same score. Metacritic has player ratings at 7.5 and 7.6 for Battleborn and Overwatch respectively.

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  • Players both seem to agree that overwatch and Battleborn are the same score? Umm... Look at the poll at the top.

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  • So I can take the word of a small sample size on the forums or thousands who have weighed in on an actual number score. I'm gonna go with the latter.

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  • So I can take the word of random people, or I can take the word of people that actually make a living reviewing games and judging them? I would go with the latter

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  • I'd still rather take the averaged out score of a bunch of regular Joes than the word of a professional reviewer that can easily be paid off for a good review. I've read reviews on Overwatch that do nothing but praise the game and gloss over any gripes players may have with it. That's not how you review a game. That's how you advertise one.

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  • You do realize how insanely stupid some Metacritic user review scores can be right? Let's check out some of the Metacritic user scores of the best games of the past couple generations: 1. GTA V: 7.8 2. Elder Scrolls Skyrim: 6.4 3. Dragon Age Inquisiton: 5.8 4. Fallout 3: 7.9 5. Mass Effect 3: 5.5 6. Dark Souls 2: 8.2 7. Metal Gear Solid V Phantom Pain: 8.2 8. Fallout 4: 6.4 9. Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty: 8.2 10. Battlefield 4: 6.0 11. Call of Duty 4: 8.4 12. Call of Duty: Ghosts: 3.6 13. World of Warcraft: 7.3 Simply put, there are a LOT of trolls out there on Metacritic, I mean my two best games of all time, GTA V and Skyrim, got a 7.8 and 6.4. After looking at those scores, would you still rather trust a person that would give Skyrim or Mass Effect 3 0/10s, or a person that actually knows what they're -blam!-ing doing, huh?

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  • At least they got CoD Ghosts right lol.

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  • I honestly don't truly understand why Ghosts get so much hate. Yes, it stuck to the formula and was a bit bland, but does that make it an atrocious game? The answer is no.

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  • Wasn't that. I don't expect CoD games to try and "revolutionize" the genre or anything. For me it's mostly because I was bad at it lol. I thought the dynamic maps were neat, and the map specific care packages (like the Jason one lol) were really cool. For some reason the game just felt [i]off [/i]to me... i was pretty good at WaW, ridiculously good at mw2 and bo1, and decently good at bo2. But with ghosts... i just went straight down to "turn off the system and break your game" scrub level lol. I gave it a fair shot, went back a few times, practised, but I just couldn't git gud, so I got gone. ^_^

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  • The Skyrim argument won't work for you here. I believe Skyrim was Bethesda's first step into the casual market and away from the niche RPGs that I loved from them. Skyrim is an overhyped and overrated piece of trash that was filled with almost as many gamebreaking bugs and glitches as Unity at launch without the same amount of effort put in to fix them. Whereas GTAV was just overrated and essentially the same as all the other GTAs that came before with some new bells and whistles in the way of an insane number of tedious "minigames". Mass Effect 3 itself, as much as I love the game, isn't worth full scores, either. The microtransaction system was mostly built on gambling your money in the hopes you'll actually get something decent. The ending was pretty terrible for an ME game and essentially threw all your choices ever made out the window. And it had that weird PVP/PvE mix that that you needed to do for galactic readiness and you had to do PvP to get enough for the best ending.

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  • [quote]The Skyrim argument won't work for you here. I believe Skyrim was Bethesda's first step into the casual market and away from the niche RPGs that I loved from them. Skyrim is an overhyped and overrated piece of trash that was filled with almost as many game breaking bugs and glitches as Unity at launch without the same amount of effort put in to fix them.[/quote] What vendetta do you have against great games? I mean seriously, at some point you have to start giving legitimate arguments as to why games aren't good. Elder Scrolls Skyrim is PC Gamer's best PC game ever, and you're saying its a piece of trash and the only reason you give is that there were bugs? [quote]Whereas GTA V was just overrated and essentially the same as all other GTAs that came before with some new bells and whistles in the form of tedious minigames.[/quote] Are you kidding? Have you even played GTA V? Let me list about a dozen things that GTA V improved upon: User Interface, Enemy AI, much bigger map, much better graphics, more customization, smoother controls, first-person mode, unique and refreshing story, and those "tedious minigames" that many people, myself included, found entertaining. And GTA games were at the point where literally slapping out a game and putting GTA V on it would have been enough. But they didn't, they improved so many things from the GTA formula. GTA V is, to me, hands-down the best game of this generation. [quote]Mass Effect itself, as much as I love the game, isn't worth full scores, either. The micro-transaction system was mostly built on gambling your money in the hopes you'll actually get something decent. The ending was pretty terrible for a ME game and essentially threw all your choices ever made out the window. And it had that weird PVP/PVE mix that you needed to do for galactic readiness and you had to do PVP to get enough for the best ending[/quote] Well, even if you feel it isn't worth full scores, which I agree with you on, do you honestly think it's worth a 5.5/10? Me neither. Let me take you through the thought process of people that gave ME 3 a bad score: "Oh, well I didn't particularly like the ending, so I'm going to take my anger out on this game and give it a 0/10!" Many reviews are actually like this. Actual video game critics are able to look past this one single shortcoming and weight the negatives against the positives and find that the positives vastly outweigh the negatives and score accordingly. And also what about the other ten examples I gave. Good job addressing all of my evidence. On every single one of those games, the difference between critic and gamers' reviews were at least 10%, with some separated by as much as 40%. Like what about CoD Ghosts, a game that did no wrong. The only gripe that people could have is that it didn't reinvent the CoD formula. However, because people had unrealistically high expectations, they gave it a 3.6/10.

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  • Bearbeitet von OnlyAlfredo: 5/27/2016 10:55:30 PM
    [quote]What vendetta do you have against great games? I mean seriously, at some point you have to start giving legitimate arguments as to why games aren't good. Elder Scrolls Skyrim is PC Gamer's best PC game ever, and you're saying its a piece of trash and the only reason you give is that there were bugs?[/quote]Just because somebody dislikes your favorite game doesn't mean they have a "vendetta against great games." In their eyes, it's a bad game that gets more respect than it deserves. You want my point of view? Let alone that Skyrim still failed to evolve it's combat system further than the last. Really all the combat is is a smooth version of Morrowind, a game that came out almost a decade earlier. There was zero innovation in the combat. And in an RPG, combat is one of my top priorities. Next, the story. Not only was it really boring and uninspired, it was chock full of clichés and disappointing boss battles(Alduin was one of the worst final bosses I've ever seen). There was very little tension considering it's the end of days and I could go play tag with kids. The characters were forgettable and had poor dialogue to go along with it. The dungeons, you know, the stuff that you spend roughly half your time in, are horribly designed. Let alone they're full of completely original and not overused zombie enemy A, the level design of the dungeon is really bad. Very little verticality, and there were very few loops and dead ends. It was just one linear path(even Oblivion's was better). Fetch quests. Whoever designs the quests at Bethesda should be fired. Yeah, the bugs. The bugs were terrible. No denying this. It's a Bethesda game. It's expected. TL;DR The game was an Oblivion reskin with literally no innovation whatsoever, didn't fix their bugs, and had a very underwhelming story. 5/10 from me. PS: I'll bet that it's PC Gamers best game purely for mods. Because if I'm going to give Skyrim any credit it's that it's modding community is great. However, seeing as how mods are made by players and not the developers, it's not a fair assessment of the game. A good game shouldn't [i]need[/i] mods to be good. But I just have a vendetta against one of my most anticipated games ever(for the record, I loved Morrowind and while I liked Oblivion, I don't think it was as good as Morrowind. Seeing as how Morrowind was original and innovative at the time). Instead, I was met with a massive disappointment that received raving reviews that for the life of me, I can't see. Maybe my standards were raised because Dark Souls was released that same year. And [i]that[/i] game is a masterpiece. A flawed masterpiece, but a masterpiece nonetheless.

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  • Yeah, Skyrim is only good because of modders. The base game is a heavily stripped down version of every ES game before it so it would be easier for casuals to pick up and play. The "dynamic sidequests" ended up all being grab x from from location a. Or kill y at location b. So dynamic. I'm pretty sure my character has quest items forever taking up weight in my pack, too, because I can't turn it in or drop them. And I have played GTAV and stand by it being overrated. Enemy AI is atrocious and they play as stupidly as they always have. The story is you being a criminal which is exactly the same as all the rest. It's just a better looking GTA. There's nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't deserve a perfect score.

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