Yes. Aiming the gun is easy
Yes. The range can be annoying
Yes. Almost anyone can use it effectively from day 1
But being a GOOD shotgunner isn't easy. Top tier shot gun players have immense skills in movement, pressuring opponents, and split second decision making.
I'm not defending shotgunners because I am one. Most people who know me, know that I snipe 99% of games. But it's kind of bullshit to discredit the skill set of another player.
I personally find using shotguns effectively very hard due to my passive nature, so when people make the statement that they take "no skill"... well I must just suck really bad. Right?
Watch the video, actually listen to my argument, then debate it all you want.
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14 AntwortenCertain shotguns take skill. Party Crasher, felwinters, matador, judgement, conspiracy theory, crap like that takes no skill.
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Thank you. You understand. Please spread this to all!!!!!!!! By the way I suck at PvP but when I do play I font cry because someone killed me with a certain weapons etc.. THEY WERE BETTER THAN ME. STOP THE NERFS ALREADY. Thanks fellow guardians.
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They don't require any skill what so ever.
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Your argument in this thread is better than the one in your video. [spoiler]It was a valid argument and it makes sense, but just saying.[/spoiler]
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What this guy said.
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4 AntwortenHey I have a question Why do the "best" players use such a small selection of weapons ? You'd think that them being so good they would be using a little bit of everything
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34 AntwortenShotguninng is simpler than sniping
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Well I think it's safe to say...mtashed be praised! All in favor of the cult of Mtashed say aye.
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2 Antwortenshotguns get alot of hate. i agree with you somewhat. what really annoys me is that i, a decent sniper, can get killed by a guy who has like 80 aim assist. they need to make snipers harder to use.
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Here is a video of me shot gunning the hell out of the other team. I snipe/shotgun according to what map I play on. I think a sniper is a long range shotgun.
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4 AntwortenShot guns are easy try using a fusion or side arm.
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1 AntwortenCan we clear up what people mean by Shotun and Sniper sometime soon? If it's a Shotgun you're discussing, chances are that it's Party Crasher +1 or that free Conspiracy Theory-D that almost everyone got. Both have high Range and Impact. Snipers? 1KYS, LDR or Longbow. All have the same impact, comparatively high Aim Assist stats without adding scopes. You can't start an argument about a whole class of weapons when only 3 of them are being used. Try using Praedyth's Revenge w/Ambush (low impact, zero aim assist) or the godawful In Times of Need and suddenly, who'd have thought? What was stupidly easy beforehand is all of a sudden significantly more difficult! I've seen more different Fusion Rifles being used (Elevating Vision, Midha's Reckoning, Plan C, Long Far Gone, Split Shifter Pro, Panta Rhei) in the last week than I have seen Shotguns or Snipers (the aforemention five, excluding Universal Remote for obvious reasons) in the last month. I criticized Long Far Gone a few days ago and had a contingent of people against me. If I went and criticized, for argument's sake, Tao Hua Yuan, I'm reasonably confident in saying that more people would agree with me than oppose me.
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6 AntwortenShotgun is high risk high rewards, snipers low risk low reward imo
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I initially thought shotgunning was a no-skill tactic but then I started messing around with it when I got Party crasher and stolen will, there is skill used and its mainly in maneuverability . If you're not so agile on your character, you're not gonna do so hot with a shotty. Lately I've been using chaperone and let me tell ya that one is harder to use simply because that one you need precision or you're not one shotting . granite it gets more range due to only being one slug but still. I'd say another interesting one to try and learn is LoW , can't treat like a shot gun but u can't treat it like a pulse rifle either.
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Bearbeitet von Pain the Human: 5/11/2016 6:55:58 PMUniversal Remote was my baby when they jerked us around by limiting special ammo. Now, I don't even care. I use a Dry Rot w/ Full Auto, LiTC, and Small Bore. Or my Hallowed shotty. But since they introduced weapon tuning to every damn weapon based on faulty stats, I basically have stopped playing. Tired of Vault space becoming an issue and having to swap guns every damn DLC/Update. I have been playing Mega Man Legends and Ape Escape to bring my love for video games back. What happened to the industry? There used to be so much selection for both PvE and PvP. I'm getting a Wii. Lmao
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Skill is needed for both. However, shotgunning is more fun. I get a little more "sweaty" sniping, when I mostly have a grin on my face when using a shotgun.
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Hi Daddy!
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Bearbeitet von cuzzybubba1: 5/11/2016 6:38:27 PMI think you should have emphasized your point in a different way. Using a shotgun is easy, using a shotgun while maintaining productive play, +KD ratio and being able to play offensively and defensively takes skill. The same guy saying shotguns are for scrubs hard scope hallways and snipe people across a map. The majority who use shotguns get kills but almost always trade and generally go negative or barely reach even.
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Love you and this post mtashed!
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ahh I think its kind of easy, from what I've learnt though, the higher your controller sensitivity, the easier it is to shotgun, it's god awful on low sensitivity and trying to shotgun players jumping in front of yourself or to get quick 180 turn shotgun kills
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Bearbeitet von Lord Silimar: 5/11/2016 6:15:23 PMOk...so I've been using shotguns in Destiny ever since I got one from that first chest...I've never really tried to snipe, or Fuse, or small gun people...I've always been a CQB when it comes to video games...I have adapted to my surroundings and my opposition over time. Just like many snipers...I used to be this little fool that just moved around all day surviving. Now I've developed skills that only a few I've seen can pull off. Don't come here and tell me that I suck, or show me my stats, or explain that snipers are...who cares. I'm not going to make a YouTube channel either...my skills are too precious to me to give away.
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LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, BUHAAAAAAAAAA!!!..... Wait....you're serious?
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2 AntwortenThey murdered the range on shottys multiple times to a point where only good players can use it effectively.
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3 AntwortenSniper rewards patience, a shotgun rewards reaction
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Bearbeitet von YeBlunts: 5/11/2016 5:25:03 PM"Its not easy" Its still easier than fusions or sidearms...? So wow shotguns are the 3rd hardest to use out of 4? Arguably 4th? Secondaries are easier to get kills with than primaries so its really only heavy that is easier to use than shotguns