1. Why didn't God just bitch slap Satan and lay into him?
It's not something we know, or can know. The Bible doesn't address the subject. However, this is not be used as evidence for God's "weakness". If he wanted to he could have made Satan cease to exist. Why he hasn't is a question that will be asked until eternity.
2. If God didn't want humanity to sin, why did he make sins so enjoyable?
He didn't. God didn't make sin, the devil did. Sin is literally the absence of God. And it's obvious why Satan would make sim pleasurable, it draws people to it. However, I guarantee you that all the pleasure that could possibly be attained from sins will prove to be worthless in the end.
3. If God made people in his image, why are there so many different types of people?
4. Jesus was black. (Not a question.)
He was of Judaic descent so he would have been middle eastern. If you consider middle eastern and black the same then sure.
5. Why didn't Jesus just use God powers to fúck up the Romans?
Because then he couldn't be the living sacrifice that atones for humanities sin. The ultimate blood sacrifice. If Jesus simply killed all of the Romans then humanity would never have changed and would have continued in the direction it was heading. With his sacrifice we were made right in God's eyes. Not just the Jews but the gentiles. It gave all of humanity free passage to Heaven as long as we would accept it.
[spoiler]Hopefully this answers your questions. Also, I'm not looking to debate and I'm definitely not looking for Salt. So, if you are going to be hostile I would ask that you take your argument elsewhere.[/spoiler]
Edit: just realized I missed 3. However I think this is self-explanatory. Humans are made in God's image. The first humans would probably be a closer resemblance then modern humans. The change is do to natural selection.
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[quote]God didn't make sin, the devil did.[/quote]So the devil is more powerful than God? Surely God, the almighty creator of the universe, possesses the ability to stop the devil. I mean, the devil was his creation after all.
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Sin exists apart from God. That's what it is, His absence. Of course he could stop it. Then what would humans be? Mindless zombies only capable of worshipping God?
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[quote]Sin exists apart from God. That's what it is, His absence. Of course he could stop it. Then what would humans be? Mindless zombies only capable of worshipping God?[/quote]If God could stop it, but doesn't, he isn't as loving as Christians claim him to be.
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Would you rather have a choice, or not be able to choose your fate? Who's more loving, the parent who lets their kids make and learn from mistakes or the one who doesn't let their child make any decisions on their own? Which child will end up making less mistakes? The one who was raised learning from them, or the one who never experienced them?
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[quote]Would you rather have a choice, or not be able to choose your fate? Who's more loving, the parent who lets their kids make and learn from mistakes or the one who doesn't let their child make any decisions on their own? Which child will end up making less mistakes? The one who was raised learning from them, or the one who never experienced them?[/quote]Except God could have made a world where we have free will AND sin doesn't exist. God is all-powerful; he can do whatever he wants. But he didn't.
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Bearbeitet von LibertarianCajun: 4/15/2016 3:03:01 AMYou can't have free will WITHOUT sin.
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[quote]You can't have free will AND sin.[/quote]Sure you can. God could have created a universe wherein that is possible. He can make whatever rules he wants.
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No, the very definition of free will is the ability to choose to do good or bad. If we could only do good, it wouldn't be free will.
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[quote]No, the very definition of free will is the ability to choose to do good or bad. If we could only do good, it wouldn't be free will.[/quote]...and my point is that God, being the almighty creator of the universe, could have created a world wherein we have free will AND be without sin. He makes the rules. He could have created a world where humans breathe water. Or a world where fish are the top of the food chain. Or a world where helium-based lifeforms thrive. There are no rules when it comes to what God can do.
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And yet, he didn't. The reason? I do not have it.
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In a short answer: Love. Long answer: Love is a choice. If it were not a choice then it would not be. Love is simply a choice that effects everything. Love can only be true and pure when it is chosen. A forced love is no love at all. If it were not for love then God would have made humans bow to his will and force them to love him. And if he forced us to love him, as I stated earlier it would be no real love. Question: Would you want a spouse that you forced to love you or one that freely chose to love you?
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[quote]In a short answer: Love. Long answer: Love is a choice. If it were not a choice then it would not be. Love is simply a choice that effects everything. Love can only be true and pure when it is chosen. A forced love is no love at all. If it were not for love then God would have made humans bow to his will and force them to love him. And if he forced us to love him, as I stated earlier it would be no real love. Question: Would you want a spouse that you forced to love you or one that freely chose to love you?[/quote]Again, God could have created a world with choice and without sin. But he didn't.
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Bearbeitet von slight: 4/15/2016 2:39:48 AM* summons demon dog * With choice there is sin. Humans can not be made like angels or God. We are humans and will fail and sin. I know God can do whatever he wants. Well, ask him that yourself.
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[quote] Except God could have made a world where we have free will AND sin doesn't exist. God is all-powerful; he can do whatever he wants. But he didn't. [/quote] Is it free-will if there's only one choice? Humans would be incapable of choosing anything else.
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[quote][quote] Except God could have made a world where we have free will AND sin doesn't exist. God is all-powerful; he can do whatever he wants.But he didn't. [/quote] Is it free-will if there's only one choice? Humans would be incapable of choosing anything else.[/quote]I think you're missing the point. Going with or without God COULD have been sinless, but he didn't make it so. Anything is possible under God...right?
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[quote] I think you're missing the point. Going with or without God COULD have been sinless, but he didn't make it so. Anything is possible under God...right? [/quote] Wrong, being apart from God is sin. As I stated earlier sin is the absence of God.
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[quote][quote] I think you're missing the point. Going with or without God COULD have been sinless, but he didn't make it so. Anything is possible under God...right? [/quote] Wrong, being apart from God is sin. As I stated earlier sin is the absence of God.[/quote]...only because God created it that way. He didn't have to make it sinful to be apart from God.
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Now I think you're missing the point. God didn't create it. It is literally the absence of Him. That's what it is. Satan started it when he revolted against Heaven and left. I think you're arguing that God could create sin in a different way? Then you'd bait me by saying if he couldn't then he's not all powerful etc etc. It's a standard baiting technique. The honest answer we don't know and that there isn't a true answer. Especially not one that could be understood by our minds.
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[quote]Now I think you're missing the point. God didn't create it. It is literally the absence of Him. That's what it is. Satan started it when he revolted against Heaven and left. [/quote]but God could have created a world in which being without him isn't a sin. [quote]I think you're arguing that God could create sin in a different way? Then you'd bait me by saying if he couldn't then he's not all powerful etc etc. It's a standard baiting technique. The honest answer we don't know and that there isn't a true answer. Especially not one that could be understood by our minds.[/quote]I didn't realize reasonable criticism of a philosophy was bait. Lol.
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lol. I'm not gonna pretend I'm enlightened or know the answers to every question. Trying to use finite knowledge and reasonable criticism is futile when we're dealing with things that aren't related to our definitions of reality and aren't limited by anything physical. Also I'm not saying it's bait. It's a baiting technique to used in debates.
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[quote]1. Why didn't God just bitch slap Satan and lay into him? It's not something we know, or can know. The Bible doesn't address the subject. However, this is not be used as evidence for God's "weakness". If he wanted to he could have made Satan cease to exist. Why he hasn't is a question that will be asked until eternity. 2. If God didn't want humanity to sin, why did he make sins so enjoyable? He didn't. God didn't make sin, the devil did. Sin is literally the absence of God. And it's obvious why Satan would make sim pleasurable, it draws people to it. However, I guarantee you that all the pleasure that could possibly be attained from sins will prove to be worthless in the end. 3. If God made people in his image, why are there so many different types of people? 4. Jesus was black. (Not a question.) He was of Judaic descent so he would have been middle eastern. If you consider middle eastern and black the same then sure. 5. Why didn't Jesus just use God powers to fúck up the Romans? Because then he couldn't be the living sacrifice that atones for humanities sin. The ultimate blood sacrifice. If Jesus simply killed all of the Romans then humanity would never have changed and would have continued in the direction it was heading. With his sacrifice we were made right in God's eyes. Not just the Jews but the gentiles. It gave all of humanity free passage to Heaven as long as we would accept it. [spoiler]Hopefully this answers your questions. Also, I'm not looking to debate and I'm definitely not looking for Salt. So, if you are going to be hostile I would ask that you take your argument elsewhere.[/spoiler] Edit: just realized I missed 3. However I think this is self-explanatory. Humans are made in God's image. The first humans would probably be a closer resemblance then modern humans. The change is do to natural selection.[/quote]