Shotguns never needed nerfing but it happened. Time to get good. You don't see a soldier runing down a street jumping in air quick scoping do you? Snipers are for campers. What they designed for. Shotguns are close range. Now you have decide your style of play
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destiny isn't designed to be realistic and the maps are mostly terrible aggressive sniping is the only way to actually get kills in destiny where as in battle field there are sniper perches designed to give you an open view of the map and also i don't see soldiers running round throwing space nukes and slamming the ground to disintegrate people so don't try to compare a science fiction fantasy game with reality because the can't compare at all
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You snipers wanted shotguns to have no range it all because apparently shotguns dont have much distance in real life. Yet with snipers it's a complete different story. Who people to blame are snipers who cried for shotguns to be nerfed
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Untrue shotguns irl have a ton of distance
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i used to use all the time before they were nerfed, and hated that they were nerfed because in my opinion they performed fine i didn't think the weapons in this game should perform the way they should in real life because if i wanted that i would play battlefield, i wanted weapons that felt futuristic including weapons of all kinds that have more versatility which in this game with this map design is important
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Then why have different classes of weapons at all? If you don't want shotguns to behave like shotguns, what should they be? The concept that a "futuristic" shotgun "should behave differently" than an actual shotgun is stupid. Shotguns are for CQC, that's their role. The current state of Destiny's gunplay is confusing at best.
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well they should perform like shotguns but they shouldn't be as they are now which is more like a melee that consumes ammo, they should do different things depending on the perk or design of the shotgun e.g. the chaperone should have the longest range of any shotgun since its a slug gun but it performs basically the same as any other shotgun minus the fact it needs a headshot to kill at the same range as conspiracy theory needs a body shot but at the moment if a shotgun isn't a high impact high range build its un-usable because the low impact or low range builds aren't even powerful at melee range and it takes longer to fire them twice than it does to melee twice which is not only them not performing like future shotguns thats them performing worse than obsolete real world shotguns
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Like I said: "The current state of Destiny's gunplay is confusing at best."
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In a game with small maps mostly year one shottys range was so -blam!-ing stupid! Why? Because it was so easy now you can use a shotgun very very well (i know i can) the difference? Now you need to think what you are going to do.
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it wasn't shottys as a weapon group it was the perks they were capable of getting, no other weapon has perks that are capable of reducing their weaknesses to such a degree that shotguns could, where they could be rolled to have barrel perks, central perks and main perks designed to increase range, the only other comparable weapon specific perks is accelerated coils for fusions since they reduced the weakness of charge time and i suppose the short range scopes for snipers but shotguns were the only ones capable of all three perk types affecting it, but shotguns as weapons without those perks were balanced before and now the only decent ones are the high impact archetype that was so prevalent before the nerf since low impact simply can't deal the damage
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Bearbeitet von Icemenvp: 4/7/2016 9:20:40 AMWhy the hell do you compare destiny with real life soldiers. If you like hardscope you should play games like battlefield, on destiny you should be rewarded bij quickscope/agressive sniping! They only help hardscopers more and more..
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Because it's called a sniper. You know what snipers are designed for right? There's no point having snipers in the game if. They're going to be close range weapons.
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Then you shouldn't play online shooters.
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But I'm capable of using weapons. Don't have rely on snipers at close range
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And I like snipers at close range, it takes skill and gives the game a bit more fast paced gameplay! How it was back in year1. And if we really want more realistic sniping, a bodyshot should be lethal ;)
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Well shotguns should also be one shot at long range
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Shotguns? What is that? We're tlking about snipers
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Yeah but shotguns were fine before the nerf but sniper players cried nerd about the range. So the point is its only right snipers can't be used at close range. After the shotgun nerd they was useless to counter snipers because snipers could be used at close range. I personally prefered a buff on shotguns but bungie only believe in nerfing. If the community gets one thing nerfed then expect another thing being nerfed. I never had an issue with snipers in year 1 but after all the nerfs it became a poor mans sniper elite. Something had to be done about snipers.
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Bearbeitet von Icemenvp: 4/8/2016 8:52:07 PMDude... The only thing that should be fixed would be hardscope/campers... this sniping gameplay ruins crucible, not people who use quisckscope/aggresive style of sniping! these take skills! Not everyone can do it, compared to hardscope, takes no skill just wait for a head to popup or scope for hours on 1 lane... And to bring you another fact, you cant hold your scope steady for long if you aim.. So if you want it realistic add more recoil, unable to scope for more then 7 seconds, big recoil after shot fired
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But there's already a game which promotes quick scoping called call of duty. The we don't need it in Destiny. The gameplay is virtually identical with quick scoping. Don't agree with camping unless it's a sniper. You say quick scoping Is a skill but only became are more aggressive playstyle for most people after the shotgun nerd because a lot of people stuggled to do it. Fair play to you or anyone before shotgun nerf but now everyone claims its skillful where was this skill before? I fully understand your point of view I'd say undo all nerds and problem solved
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Yea call of duty the game where you can shotgun from miles, you should go there to:)
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But that's my whole point. Destiny doesn't need to be like cod but if that's what people want fair enough but don't nerf everything so just a sniper feast
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snipers are designed as battle field control and demoralization weapons... sniper teams work in teams of 2 people 1 hard scoping one spotter... a snipers job is not to get kills but to control the movement of enemies so stop using ether making them run into fire or away from allies... truly skilled snipers are the one that realize this... as a sniper in a game you will have a high k/d but a low over all kill count...