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4/22/2015 9:11:37 AM
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I dont like the idea of weapons spawning with timers at all. I think what makes the Destiny PvP stand out is that I can use my character with my gear and not some generic skin with some generic weapons. If you want something like that you are free to play any other FPS. This doesnt mean that I think everything is ok in Crucible as it is.
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  • Bearbeitet von Dark Rigel: 4/24/2015 5:12:54 AM
    I see what you are saying. Since you have an op Hawkmoon and Gjallehorn you want to be able to pwn people with them. I understand your plight. But at the same time you don't realize in the grand scheme of things that this mentality is hurting the Crucible community. Balance and fairness are much more fun and draw in many more people than having a game where everyone trudges and grinds for one particular weapon to bring to the fight and pwn all. You got to think of Everybody else that is playing. As well as what you want out of the game. But yes we agree at least that the Crucible can be better. How do you suppose this can be? What ideas do you have that would make things better for Everyone, competitive and casual players alike?

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  • I rarerly use GH in Crucible as it is kind of a waste of the exotic slot. I think your mentality would destroy the Crucible in the long term. If you want a game as you proposed, chose any other FPS to your liking but stop proposing to make the Crucible a generic shooter. The Crucible I see now is mostly lag and the team balancing is a little off.

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  • You mentioned Supers and saying the Crucible isn't balanced. Which is EXACTLY what I've been saying. And it would be better if it WAS more balanced. The way you are talking sounds like you don't want it to change at all. Other than fixing lag. lol

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  • Bearbeitet von twey_ironside: 4/24/2015 8:40:54 AM
    My point again: Go play another game that fits to your special needs instead of making trying to make destiny to some generic FPS. Besides the lag I think it's a problem that almost everybody uses the same 5 weapons. I think some other weapons should buffed to be on par with the top tier weapons.

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  • Nah. Fixing lag and buffing a few weapons isn't going to fix our balance issues. It's in the core of the game where things can get better. Don't be afraid of change friend.

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  • Fixing the lag would help a great deal. I am not afraid of change but I think your proposed changes pretty much suck...

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  • You are entitled to your own opinion. lol

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  • Bearbeitet von twey_ironside: 4/26/2015 1:34:02 PM
    You as well but I don't get why you want to change the Crucible into some generic shooter that you could play already!? Why do you need a 'lol' in every post?

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  • Bearbeitet von Dark Rigel: 4/28/2015 12:51:40 AM
    Because I don't feel like it would be generic. To me shooters don't need BIG changes to keep themselves from being generic. Just subtle differences can make or break an FPS in my opinion. That makes them either really good, or generic. Like the subtle differences between MW3 and Black Ops 2. (The two CoD games I've played a lot.) They may seem generically similar but too me they are different as night and day. The maps are way better in Black Ops 2. The guns are different and balanced. (Mostly) The perk system and attachments are handled differently. And you have scorestreaks instead of killstreaks. Though in the skeletal structure they are the same... It's the little things that make them good or bad. Black Ops 2 is way better in my opinion. And my K/D reflects it in Those games. lol. I've managed to adapt and play at a fairly good level in Destiny (check my Hunter), but I Know it could be better. And I could have much more fun in this game IF the game was more balanced and fair. My K/D would be even better more than likely. And I wouldn't need Vex Mythoclast or Hawkmoon to do it. lol. That's why I feel a Separate playlist like what I described above would be a really good option. Maybe also add better/simpler more symmetrical maps and fix lag issues as well. Servers would be nice. lol. Oh and their I go again. I lol'd. I can't help it. I'm actually like that in real life. I'm a follower of Jesus and have a generally happy attitude, even when I'm having a serious discussion about something. It'll be all good man! :)

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  • The 'lol' quetion was just curiosity. I think if they could fix the lag it would help most. This is the biggest issue I have so far. Even though I do have every so called OP weapon I tend to change my load out a lot to keep it interesting but I feel sometimes like I have to equip Hawkmoon or TLW just to counter teams exclusively using exotic HCs. (I have use Thorn a lot before the buff and stopped uisng it after. I thin Gjallarhorn is a waste of the exotic slot for PvP). I wish the Suros would still be on par with the HCs just to have another option in weapon choices. I still like using my guns and not some gun. It doesnt have to be an exotic HC though. Team balancing is another issue I face a lot. I dont get why the 2 best players of a match get put into the same team in the nextmatch to completely anihilate the other team. I feel like I get dragged down a lot by other team mates. BTW Thanks for having a civil discussion even though we have different opinions. I think thats rare in this forum.

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  • Bearbeitet von Dark Rigel: 4/29/2015 4:59:04 AM
    Nothing wrong with curiosity. lol. And yea I can see that we can kind of agree on the hand cannon thing. And exotic thing in general. I wish for more equally useful options as well. Variety makes things more interesting. And I think I see what your saying about the team thing. It does seem like you can get put up against the same people over and over again sometimes. And having a team of randoms can be a HUGE drawback against an actual prepared fireteam. I always struggle when I'm teamed up with randoms and most of the other team is in the same clan. Too much teamwork on one side. Not enough on the other. And randoms rarely have mics. That situation I think should be changed somehow. And I noticed that the few times I had time to play Inferno this past week I ended up playing a lot of the same people. Even backed out and started matchmaking all over again and I got a couple of the same people anyways. Was no one hardly playing? Not a good sign. lol. But yea... Who knows what the best answer could be. We will see if Bungie does anything to improve the situation. I'm sure they will at some point. Oh and you are welcome. Just cause we have different views doesn't mean anything to me. I won't judge. :)

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  • That mindset isn't the problem. The real problem is lag, another problem is there is no ranking system, another problem is somehow all these weapons do the same damage regardless of armor rating or attack dmg!!

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  • Also that mindset really is a problem. But it can't be helped right now because that is just how Destiny is built. Why do you think MLG hasn't come and offered to pick up Destiny's Crucible as one of their ESports? Because it needs to be changed and improved.

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  • Halo 5 will get mlg quick because Halo and their developers get it

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  • Well 343 has Halo now. And they kind of get it. They still kind of even changed THAT formula by adding loadouts and more abilities. But it's probably still a touch more balanced than the Crucible. lol. Not as good as the original Bungie created online awesomeness of Halo 2 and Halo 3.

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  • Who cares about MLG? The Crucible by nature is not balanced since we can use supers.

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  • That's part of what I've been saying. lol

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  • Dedicated servers would help a lot in the war against lag. A ranking system or at least some matchmaking preferences would be nice as well. Like being able to choose: Casual vs. Competitive and Team Player vs. Lone Wolf. Maybe even being able to click on individuals and hit an option to block them from being matched with you again. As far as the damage thing is concerned... you kinda got it right. You are thinking of the Iron Banner version of the Crucible where the numbers actually matter. Where as in regular Crucible they don't. But even in the regular Crucible there is a big difference in damage between say; auto rifles and hand cannons. lol

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