All y’all saying sbmm was bad for pvp looking like 🤡 after bungie came forward with charts and numbers. I really think sbmm will be a great adjustment for pvp, now to just balance hunters and pvp might be saved.
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3 Repliesdude learn how to read the sbmm that the bottom tiers want and this twab SBMM has nothing alike have you notice they always put CONECTION first in the twab ?
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If SBMM matchmaking was perfect, you would hypothetically win half of your games. 50% ^ 6 is less than a 1% chance of happening. Think about 7. Y’all preach that SBMM is the solution but really just need to get better at the game. Ain’t that deep.
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I understand and relate to this, and I'm stoked they're finally trying what many of us have been asking for a very long time, but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves, and get too big a head here. It still has to be tested with the public to see if it will work. Don't get hopes too high though because matchmaking is not the only big problem PvP has, its just one in a series. I think it will go a little better for sure, and think it is the right step, but I'm not sure how much difference we'll actually see.
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33 RepliesThe problem with sbmm is the lack of exposure to skilled players, mean lower skilled players will never get a chance to pick up top tier play styles by playing against those players. As much as it sucked, I suffered through and in the long run I started picking up new skills and habits as well as learning counters to things like slide-shotgunners As a result I went from a 1.5 kda in Y1-2 to a 1.7. Also if your constantly matched against similar players then you'll never get a chance to see your improvement by getting a game were you just destroy the enemy team
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3 RepliesNothing in that TWAB proved that SBMM is good. They basically used charts to display the same issues good players have been mentioning for years. And instead of actually taking a look at lobby balancing and trying to do it the way good players have recommended, they are going back to the failed experiment that was SBMM. Rewarding outlier players with a nearly unplayable experience centered around long queue times and lag is just an L move that kills incentive to stick with the game and improve.
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Enjoy the participation trophy while you can. Every time they implement sbmm, pvp dies until they go back to cbmm. Every.single.time.
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1 ReplyIts light sbmm by they way which means youll still be playing against people better than you not equal to you
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10 RepliesWon't be surprised next dlc we go back to CBMM, about to have 2 whole season of sweats an streamers complaining pvp is to sweaty an then bam cbmm is back. I say after 2 season next dlc we get cbmm back.
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3 Replies"Balance hunters" 🤡
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……….and we all still wonder how people can be easily conned with so many facts readily available, 🤦♂️
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Edited by BOSSNONO254: 7/30/2022 5:15:09 PM
BOSSNONO254Just Your Average PvP Sweat >:) - old
SBMM will not be able to be balanced out properly unless Bungie issues a complete overhaul of their game engine. The best way to save PvP is to have players placed in ranked categories based upon their skill level which they will then play against players in that pool until/unless they improve upon that skill. These players will face opponents who are on a distributed statistic scale. Which means they will face players on the lower end, higher end, and players in the middle of this scale which correlates to the rank these players are in. Then CBMM will need to be further adjusted with dedicated servers to help both matchmaking times and experience. Because with SBMM you are automatically set at a 50/50 win rate. With your games being as competitive as they can be. Whilst yes being stomped on by players is annoying. You will actually be facing players who put up a fair challenge with matches that will almost always come close. Ultimately the former alternatives I listed are better suited for a PvP game. But this is not a true PvP game as Bungie has neglected PvP for ages now. -
Nah they’ll change it back again. Numbers drop when SBMM is active. Been proven multiple times now. This will just be another time in the end. The real question is how long till they revert it again.
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Yea… connections in this game aren’t good enough to focus on anything else lol this is going to be a nightmare for all
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4 RepliesSbmm is not a factor in saving pvp lmfao. Dedicated servers, an actual ranked playlist that matches you based on rank with awesome cosmetic rewards, a dedicated pvp team, crucible tutorial for new players, and even separate sandboxes would be nice places to start but we all know most of this won’t happen. At least not soon.
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You'll just be crying about something else soon enough 😁
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Nerf fusion rifles! (for real this time)
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3 RepliesI have the same KDA. Double your kills. Now we will be facing each other and I play sweaty like you probably do as well. It’s not going to be fun. It’s going to be sweaty Meta matches now.
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Honestly curious what the gripes will be when you find out SBMM didn't change your experience in any regard.
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It’s a bad change that we’ll complain about till they change it in a year Pvp is just unplayable till then
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And then for the next dlc they will remove it because everybody will be complaining, and everybody besides the below average players will be happy because "bungie listens to us" They already did this move. "Enjoy" sbmm for a while i suppose (even tough it never worked)
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[quote]now to just balance hunters and pvp might be saved.[/quote] Fr, once Omnicrutchulus, Lord of Crutches, and invisibility crutches are all nerfed, then maybe PvP will finally stop being so cancer.
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Lol people who actually think this will solve something. P2P will always be a terrible idea that Bungie will never give up on. Sure, you can't please everyone, but Bungie gives zero poops about crucible, they're just trying to resell you some lame version of skill/connection based pvp. Just trust them, they have this peer to peer pipe dream all worked out........now.
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3 RepliesI mean you cant call people clowns when people on these forums refuse to just git gud
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Are you in for strict or loose because if you are into strict you should reavulate the 3 times we had it If you are happy with the new system. Good for you
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2 RepliesAgree, buff invis.
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I was expecting you to worship the dark lord but now I am disappointed.