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5/23/2013 10:55:34 PM
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Your thoughts on transgender people?

Transgender meaning that their gender (what they perceive themselves as) does not match what sex they are (what's in between their legs). Specifically note that gender=/=sex. What are your thoughts on people with this gender-sex dissonance? Are they normal people? Do they have the right to question themselves? Would you ever date one? What would you do if you found out your partner was one after the fact? What if one of your friends turned out being transgender? Me personally, I don't think I could ever like a transgendered person.. If I went out with a beautiful girl, and took her home, unzipped her pants and found... that.... Oh god...

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  • they are not normal but there not unhuman. everbody can question themselves. would I date one HELL NO!And if I found out my partner was one my attraction to her would be gone so no.As for my friends Id probably wouldnt be as close but besides that wouldnt mind.Also I would tell that friend that I do not support his/her practices

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  • one word: abomination

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  • Edited by SurprisedRICK: 5/26/2013 3:53:48 AM
    nvm

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  • I think they're mentally ill. I mean, it seems like some sort of personality disorder to some EXTREME mode. To the point your brain believes it's the opposite gender than what the body actually is. A brain-body mismatch seems like a disorder.

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    • Edited by C80: 5/25/2013 5:25:56 PM
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      [quote]Are they normal people?[/quote]Yes, of course they are. [quote]Do they have the right to question themselves?[/quote]That question was as bad as the first one. Yes, anyone has the right to question themselves. [quote]Would you ever date one?[/quote]Hell yeah I would! Personality is what really matters to me. I'm actually hoping sometime in the future I might get the chance to have a date with a MtF friend I have, she's so sweet and I love her to death <3 [quote]What would you do if you found out your partner was one after the fact?[/quote]Well I would be a bit disappointed that they didn't tell me. However I'm asexual so it doesn't really matter in the end. [quote]What if one of your friends turned out being transgender?[/quote]Any friends I have would remain friends regardless of anything that could happen. Unless they simply didn't want to be friends anymore.

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    • Edited by Verbatim: 5/25/2013 4:59:49 PM
      [quote]What are your thoughts on people with this gender-sex dissonance?[/quote]I don't care.[quote]Are they normal people?[/quote]Of course.[quote]Do they have the right to question themselves?[/quote]Anyone has the "right" to do pretty much anything they want to do...[quote]Would you ever date one?[/quote]That depends on which direction. If they are SF<GM (sex: female, gender: male. For lack of better terminology), I would only date them if they happened to be sexually attracted to biological males such as myself. If they are SM<GF, I wouldn't under any normal circumstances consider dating them. Not with the intent of having a relationship with one, anyway. I have what's called a [i]sexual[/i] preference. Not a [i]gender[/i] preference. I'd only date those who subscribe to the general characteristics that I am sexually attracted to, and that includes being biologically female, because biological females tend to possess traits that I find alluring. You may mentally be a woman, but to my eyes, you're a man. And I'm sorry, but at no point in my lifetime will technology ever be sufficient enough to make a perfect male-to-female transition, such that I would be okay with having a relationship with you. If that sounds conceited or shallow, well, I guess it kinda is. I just think that relationships [i]have[/i] to have some physical attraction involved.[quote]What would you do if you found out your partner was one after the fact?[/quote]I'd be surprised, but it wouldn't make that much of a difference to me, because she still will have been a woman (biologically). It's been established that I'd only have a relationship with a biological female anyway, so if it turned out that her gender was male, it wouldn't make any difference. Gender is entirely periphery. It would only matter if it so happened that she was no longer sexually attracted to me anymore.[quote]What if one of your friends turned out being transgender?[/quote]Wouldn't give a shit. It would be interesting, because I've never met a transgendered person offline, and I may have a lot more questions, but I wouldn't pay any mind to it beyond some shock.

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    • Edited by God: 5/24/2013 10:50:27 PM
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      [quote]What are your thoughts on people with this gender-sex dissonance?[/quote] I'm not exactly supportive of people getting major surgical alterations because I have the biased idea that people should learn to accept the bodies they were born with. In my mind sex is determined simply by what organs are present, I think 'gender identity' is largely an artificial construct, as for most people I think it is superseded by individual personality. For instance I don't see myself as 'a male' I see myself as me who has a biologically male body. There is just too much variation in body types and personalities for me to see any specific combination as 'correct', but if someone simply cannot live with the body they were given then I guess I don't mind surgery, just advise against it. [quote]Are they normal people?[/quote] Define normal. It's statistically uncommon but it's harmless and doesn't really matter. [quote]Do they have the right to question themselves?[/quote] Everyone has a right to question themselves, but I would prefer that they define themselves as an individual rather than try to fit some predetermined image. [quote]Would you ever date one?[/quote] People can't help what they are attracted to, nor can they help what they find unattractive. If they are attractive to me then yes I would, it they aren't I wouldn't. Simple as that, labels aren't a factor for me. [quote]What would you do if you found out your partner was one after the fact?[/quote] Depends on the situation, how far into the relationship. If they were originally a different sex but went through surgery, I probably wouldn't care if I already am with them. If I was let to believe they were one sex but then later found a 'present' I would not be very happy about it, not because of prejudiced but simply because I find that unattractive, same way I would probably be upset with a 'normal' person who was hiding some highly inciminating or undesirable trait. [quote]What if one of your friends turned out being transgender?[/quote] It's complicated when an intimate relationship is involved, but if they were just friends I see no reason to care.

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    • its psychologically based. In the situation you described though, unless they have had some extensive surgery, it should be obvious to you through several characteristics

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    • Why should I care about something that is totally irrelevant to my well-being?

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    • Makes no sense to me. Gender is defined by jphysical characteristics that describe the human being. It is not based on whatever weird stuff is going through your head. Simply put if you have a dick your dude. Cant change that. If you have a vag your a woman. Cant change that. Soz it's just the hand you are dealt.

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      • Edited by Heskra: 5/24/2013 7:34:40 PM
        They're livin' and lovin' their life. I say good for them. EDIT: Unless, of course, they don't like looking different than what they feel. I wouldn't date one, but I definitely wouldn't care if I knew one or many. As far as questioning themselves goes, I have no say in that. Everyone questions themselves at one point or another, transgenered or not.

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      • Their life, their choice.

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        • I just don't get why people care.

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        • What ever floats their boat, just leave me out of it.

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        • I think it's something that shouldn't be judged by the opinions of other people but by your own heart. Personally, I'm bi, so I will grant you that I'm already not in the majority because I don't find either standard arrangement yucky (quite the opposite, in fact), and I'm female so it's more socially acceptable for me to be in a non heteronormative relationship. So I can't say I have as much riding on my answers as most of the people (guys mainly) here, but I would definitely date a transgendered person. Heck, if we consider the term "gender" as meaning compliance with the classic long hair and dresses versus frat boy, and "transgender" as noncompliance with those standards (which is in fact what the term gender means... societal roles of people biologically sexed one way or the other), then there is a certain set of "transgender" les.bian women who dress and act like gentlemen that I find [i]extremely[/i] attractive. I think it's interesting how many people are willing to be friends with a transgendered person but not date them. Yes, the "acceptable company" bar is much lower for friends than it is life partner no matter what issue we're talking about, but I find the contrast between the "HELL NO" and "It might be awkward at first but I think I would get over it" average response to the two questions is an intriguing dichotomy. If the answer to the second is true, why can't it be the same for the first?

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        • I don't understand it but it's none of my business. Normal? No, no one is really normal. The right to question themselves? Not entirely sure I understand what that means, but I guess so. I ask myself questions and proceed to answer them all the time, hell I've had full conversations with myself. No. To those that call me shallow and tell me what a bad person I am, piss off, get over it. I don't suspect that it's a problem I'd ever have to worry about for many reasons, but for the sake of the topic, probably be pissed. Honestly? It'd probably be awkward, while transexuals aren't strange relatively, it'd be something strange for me, but I don't think I'd quit being their friend because of it.

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        • [quote]What are your thoughts on people with this gender-sex dissonance?[/quote] My same thoughts on everyone else. [quote]Are they normal people?[/quote] Yes. [quote]Do they have the right to question themselves?[/quote] They have the right to do whatever they feel they need or want to with themselves. Not sure how this is even still a topic of debate in 2013. [quote]Would you ever date one?[/quote] Depends on the person, I suppose. I want to have biological children some day, so the odds of me getting into a relationship with someone incapable of reproducing is unlikely. [quote]What would you do if you found out your partner was one after the fact?[/quote] Be upset that she kept something so serious from me. [quote]What if one of your friends turned out being transgender?[/quote] Feel sorry that they have to deal with people like the bigots in this thread. Probably be more friendly to them because of it.

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          • I wouldn't direct this opinion at a transgender person out of respect. But in my own opinion, no amount of hormone therapy or surgery is going to turn you into the opposite sex. However if you want to be called a male or female that's fine I'll respect that and call you whatever you want.

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            • I have no thoughts about them. do what you want as long as it doesn't bother me.

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            • Reminded me of this.

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            • How can someone be trans-gender anyway? You either have X-Y (male) chromosomes or you have X-X (female) chromosomes. The rest of it as I understand is just a mental disorder, centred around not feeling comfortable with your own body. But if that is the way they want to live their lives that's fine. Just leave me out of it :p

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              • [quote]What are your thoughts on people with this gender-sex dissonance?[/quote] I am interested by it, because everyone has moments when they feel uncomfortable in their body, but to be so uncomfortable enough to change your gender intrigues me. [quote]Are they normal people?[/quote] yes [quote]Do they have the right to question themselves?[/quote] sure [quote]Would you ever date one?[/quote] no, while I respect their right to change, I could not look past the fact that she was once a guy [quote]What would you do if you found out your partner was one after the fact?[/quote] I would be angry naturally, but wouldn't do any physical harm to the person [quote]What if one of your friends turned out being transgender?[/quote] I have a transgender friend

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              • Edited by Madman Mordo: 5/24/2013 11:54:41 AM
                1. Don't have a problem with them, as long as they don't have a problem with me. 2. Yup. 3. Yup. 4. No unfortunately. I don't hold any hostility towards them in the slightest but they're still essentially the same gender as me, and I'm not homosexual. 5. I wouldn't appreciate being lied to if I'm being perfectly honest. I'd probably call the relationship into question. 6. Wouldn't really care.

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                • 1. I think it's a bit weird and I can't relate, but it's none of my business 2. No, but then again who is? 3.yeah, again, it's their life, they can do what they please with it. 4. No, I still consider them male, no matter what they say or look like. 5. I would be pissed off and disgusted (if I had sex with them). They lied to me and tricked me, I have that right. 6. I would be cool with it, a friend is a friend.

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                  • mentally ill

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                  • They are people, who am i to judge something as trivial as gender?

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