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Hitting someone with a bow hand cannon swap

This is lame you are abusing the ttk. Only way to fight it is a sniper.

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  • Another “whatever kills me is lame” thread.

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  • I rarely ever encounter a bow/hc swap and I mean once in a blue moon. I do main lemon arc and sidearm and swap those for shotgun rushers.

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  • Been using a GL for quite some time, been nerfed but still abusing ttk all the time. There’s always a weakness to everything in the game, for a bow handcannon user you simply have to match an absurd ttk and move carefully and fast. Any special weapon in this game can compete with the setup since special weapons are designed to compete against double primaries

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  • Edited by NotCreative123: 3/30/2022 5:23:12 AM
    The bow-handcannon swap counters every other ranged primary weapon, and a skilled user can kill smg and sidearm (or last word) users at close range. This is a a problem, because Bungie has said that they want more primary gunfights in the Crucible. (Yes, I know a bow is a primary) Right now, bow-hc users are at a disadvantage when playing against users of special weapons. However, if Bungie continues the trend of nerfing special weapons and ammo, then the bow-handcannon swap will only be more dominant. Bungie should look at nerfing / balancing ALL counters to primary play - not just special weapons.

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  • It only works with quick draw. Other than that just don’t peek them

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  • If I see it, I’ll just put on arblast and any 140rpm. Fight cheese with cheese

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    • It's still less cheesy then maining HC's w/ shotgun or fusion rifle spam, which is dominating crucible since forever.

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      • I actually believe this combo, especially with Le Monarque, is just as much of a menace as Chaperone and my beloved Main Ingredient. The Sandbox team be sleeping. Or not caring. Or both 😴

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      • They should probably reduce the damage bows do so that it takes two headshots to kill making this whole situation irrelevant

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        • Really? This is a complaint? This has been around since bows were introduced.

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        • Imagine complaining about a double primary setup

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          • Edited by Grenade Eater: 3/29/2022 4:10:47 PM
            I've been encountering this yesterday in Control for the first time. Had to hide after they got me with the bow because I couldn't beat that ttk with my scout at all.

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          • My absolute favorite build on my Hunter before the change to Lucky Pants was a (at the time) 110 hand cannon and Le Monarque. When the change to 120 hc hit, i played it a bit more since i could pop off a few better shots. After the change to Lucky Pants, I figured out how to make the build on Warlock using Ophidian Aspect and will occasionally (more like rarely) slay out. I get HARD countered by long range weapons, exceedingly quick firing weapons at close range(Veist ar's, smg's, etc) or a shotgun ape looking at me and screaming OOGABOOGA with their preferred flavor of pellet and/or slug shotty. It's legit a YOU thing, my dude. Not a problem with someone running double primary.

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          • Hahahahaha the amount of people in this thread who clearly typed out “cheese” and “crutch” while somehow convincing themselves that their style of play is somehow better and more skillful is absolutely amazing! I mean, honestly… There’s people here legitimately defending one style of play while condemning another! My personal favorite are the people who can clearly identify cheesy and easy-mode playstyles, but purposely choose to handicap themselves by sticking to their skillful 140’s because they don’t need to crutch. Go peddle your BS somewhere else, it’s not worth anything here. Lololol It’s a video game, people are going to play in whatever way brings them the most fun and success. It’s not that hard.

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          • [quote]...abusing the ttk...[/quote] Says the Hunter hypocrite running Eyesluna, a Fusion, and Gally. I'm allowed to have a low ttk loadout but you not because doing it with 2 primaries is cheese. Get lost

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          • Abusing the ttk.... 🤔 In the same game that everyone else is using special ammo weapons that all kill with one hit.. 😶 So what you're saying is that it's faster & easier to draw, shoot, swap & shoot again than it is for you to just shoot.. That getting hit twice with primary ammo is more of a threat than getting hit once by special ammo? That a bow which always needs a follow up shot unless it's currently buffed... is more Deadly than a sniper rifle or linear fusion at long range, and a shotgun or fusion rifles at closer ranges when any of those are base damage, insta kill at their intended ranges.. So what should the people who play that style be using then? What would be the "acceptable" loadout?

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            • Remove dexterity mods in general

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              • Edited by enraged: 3/28/2022 11:25:33 PM
                The bow/hand cannon swapping gods won’t like this one

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              • Edited by Infamous067: 3/28/2022 5:13:28 PM
                You already know what counters it so why bother posting? You know whats lame? Players crutching on fusions and invisibility or players crutching on over shields or massive stasis armor because they cant bother with a primary weapon to win their duels. Players will use and abuse whatever cheese they can use to have an advantage over other players. Thats what happens when you have pvp in a looter shooter, so suck it up and counter or stop playing pvp.

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              • Just ape them 🤷‍♂️ Unless it’s 6s they can’t really camp with it.

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                Praedyth
                Praedyth

                😘 - old

                Eh it’s a legit combo, deal with it lmao.

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                  GhaltaGamer
                  GhaltaGamer

                  Beware the man with the Golden Gun. - old

                  Don't tell me. Le Monarque?

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                  • Bro, you’re using crimson. Ducking crimson!

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                    • You sound salty that people can compete with the special weapon spam.

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                    • Bows are probably my least favorite weapon to duel, that or rapid fire pulses. Getting critical off of a single shot makes clean up so easy with just about any weapon and it gets annoying when they don't even have to hit headshots to do it. That's not me saying to nerf them because they are infrequent to play against, but le monarque can die in a hole I HATE that weapon. Rapid fire pulses are just spammable pulse rifles that kill as fast and easier than autos cause they are still burst weapons. Now that bungie is actually MAKING them their popularity is slowly increasing. Dueling one of those with a 600 auto is just painful cause let's also not forget...they got better forgiveness hitting bodies too :(. Again I'm not saying to nerf them, I just don't like dueling them.

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                    • So use a sniper then, or use bow and hand cannon if it's that powerful.

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