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3/27/2022 6:58:18 AM
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Toxicity Levels Rising

My gosh, where is the good part of the community? Will the nice D2 players please come out? Reading the forums and playing in raids and trials the last week or two has really shoved so many egotistical elitists into my face. I don’t get it guys chill out. Sheesh. Good or not can we stop separating the community so much? There is so much exclusion to new players and players who are struggling. Especially with endgame content. I feel like we have such a gatekeeping community. Don’t we want people to play the game? Larger populations are healthy for communities and games to grow. Ugh… it feels so rare to come across a guardians who are chill and helpful anymore. Every time a do an LFG people are like afraid of me haha, that I’ll kick them cause they don’t have the item i asked about. And the forums are just the worst my gosh. I have no words for the forums.

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  • The few of us nice people are hiding. This place was once the “home of your mother jokes”; unfortunately the world can’t take a joke anymore. Now we’re all cowering and worrying that we might offend someone over every little thing.

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    • There's a small subset of individuals on here that really have nothing else in their lives except logging on each day, all day and being contrary, awkward and generally acting like a bit of a -blam!-. The other 95% of the forum are cool for the most part and engage in honest, well intentioned dialogue. Best bet is to auto block the 5% of weirdos and if enough normal people do it they'll only have each other to feed off.

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      • I’m nice. I’m also a rubbish player so I just play for fun and don’t have any ‘achievements’ to boast about. I try and help the team I’m in and hope they appreciate that I try my best even if my stats look terrible. Not into playing with elitists or sweaty folk who think a video game is more important than real life.

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        • Edited by Rinzler: 3/30/2022 12:59:36 PM
          Well it doesnt help when those same low self esteem elitists always go around talking down to everyone else in the community. FFS at least D1 had a crap ton of awesome chill players who were always cool with helping others with pve and pvp content...but now look. You have posts saying kwtd, and even after players do their due diligence by researching and watching raid videos they still cant get into raids. Why? Because those same low iq individuals posting kwtd often refuse to even allow people in so long as they havent actually run the raid yet...as if they're magically gonna have the exact same hands on experience from running the raid just from watching a couple yt videos. Then theres pvp...and we all know how bad that -blam!- is. Not even good players are able to enjoy themselves because most of what they encounter are stacks of sweaty flawless holders and no lives who get off on crapping on those simply trying to casually play pvp to earn gear or get better, or simply wanting somewhat enjoyable matches. The actual enjoyment factor is gone when compared to D1...which is what made it so great to begin with. Players didnt NEED to be the most experienced or the most powerful to jump in and still enjoy the games content. Both pvp and pve. But now look, player numbers have tanked, pvp and pve invites from the tower basically doesnt exist anymore, and even long time players are either frustrated to the point of leaving, or find themselves not being able to enjoy the same content they once did like they used to. But unfortunately Bungo also has a hand in this, and as of right now little to nothing is actually done about it. It also doesnt help that a good amount of decisions are influenced by streamers and youtubers either. Because lets face it, D1 didnt have builds like D2 does now...and where do most people go or get their inspiration for their builds? ...then what happens when most of the community starts using those same builds? Thats right, nerfs, lots of nerfs. Love them or hate them, but to say content creators dont have a hand in that as well would be incredibly shortsighted, and dare I say...ignorant. All in all, this game could've been so much better, but we're stuck with how it is atm.

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          • I have carried 21 people in VotD so far in 23 full runs... 72 carried in Garden w 61 clears.. have helped lots of people do their 1st GM NF... point is I will help people, if they're willing to adapt their play style to get the job done... equip the right weapons, armor, mods, and subclasses... if someone wants to use awful armor and weapon setups on ineffective subclass and thinks they deserve help after being told how to fix themselves then that's not on us veterans

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            • Edited by RingersCheckmate: 3/31/2022 10:22:53 PM
              Over the past two weeks I've had no less than 4 people come into my fireteam where my title was "Can teach / will be teaching" and they apologized for not knowing what to do. One of them was a dude who said he had a clear but also said he was carried the whole time and didn't know what to do, and I later found out while actually trying to give him an important role that he was drunk too.

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                I just restrict my messages on Playstation to Friends only because I don't have the patience to deal with people Blocking someone is pointless outside of Facebook, Especially since games won't even prevent that person from indirectly interacting with you

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                • You have toxic community because the game breeds toxicity as well. When you have people in the community complaining about activities that feel like a handout when everyone is enjoying it or guns and subclass abilities and supers are overused because everyone is learning how to use it, that's how you know the community is being toxic to others in the same community. And the game listens to this nonsense and breeds toxicity to it's own community, destroying it and the game in the process! Don't forget the people that are making the game and giving directions to the game are not even game developers themselves, but probably came from some toxic community of other games. A toxic game breeds toxicity to it's own community! LMAO!!! State of the game!

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                  • Try reddit Definitely a more positive community over there

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                    • It’s because the game is actually very easy. Because of this, players get a false sense of their skill, making them think that they’re Gods. When in reality, they just play more than other players who “aren’t as good”.

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                    • I have been lucky with LFG and guided games. I have played with a bunch of chill people. I have noticed the pvp toxicity is overflowing. I'm getting tbagged consistently in quick play. Ha ha ha. I'm a bad pvp player as well. It's not like I'm bullying anyone in control.

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                    • Had 2 lovely chaps boot everyone from a Vow run on Caretaker after I said I'd hop off Nova and put on Well, which was prompted by them dying on stuns/damage plates. One more just quietly dipped so we gathered 3 more chads and cracked out the rest of the raid with ease. People who get omega-neurotic over loadouts are usually gash tbh.

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                      • I answered a really nice post the other week, a clan helping people with the new Raid, got my first clear & now part of the clan, come check us out 😁

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                      • Part of the problem is new lights aren't given a good enough start to gear up for end game in a reasonable amount of time. This makes it 2x as hard to sherpa new lights and start teaching them how Destiny actually works. Now this second part is mostly just what I've seen. The "nice D2 players" are in clans and discord groups. LFG and matchmaking are great and all but its random matching with strangers. LFG is a bit better in my opinion because you can at least state your goals ahead of time. At the end of the day though its all luck, you might get a group that exchanges friend requests at the end, you might a group that freaks out and leaves at the first the team wipe. Finding a good clan or discord to play with is best thing a new player or a player looking to get to the end game can do. The people that have been playing for years and primarily interact with endgame systems stay out of LFG and matchmaking when they can avoid it.

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                      • I mean, we just say kwtd in my raid group but if one guy comes out and says they don't know we don't mind if it's one person honestly Same for trials. We don't put in kd requirements since they mean jack nowadays. I rather have a barely 1.0kd guy who plays with the team than a 2.0kd guy who dies every 5 seconds but screams it's fine because he got 1 kill

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                      • You get use to it….. and honestly better drama than the shows on tv.

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                      • Hey. I run a decent community with good people who help each other out. All kinds of abilities, with a focus on PvE but I do the odd Trials carry. We teach people endgame and help people through content, and have a few allied communities too. Do you use Discord?

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                        • I’ve given up hope for the forums at the point… it’s like people don’t understand that people have different opinions and different biases. Like if I play Class A, I can’t have an opinion on Class B’s balance, but I can get told that my class is OP in a sandbox. The toxicity honestly has probably made me toxic at this point too.

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                          • It’s true. The forum, bar the help section, should probably just be scrapped at this point. It sets a bad precedent and lacks adequate moderation.

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                            • Edited by Jay: 3/30/2022 8:31:19 AM
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                              [quote]My gosh, where is the good part of the community? Will the nice D2 players please come out? Reading the forums and playing in raids and trials the last week or two has really shoved so many egotistical elitists into my face. I don’t get it guys chill out. Sheesh. Good or not can we stop separating the community so much? There is so much exclusion to new players and players who are struggling. Especially with endgame content. I feel like we have such a gatekeeping community. Don’t we want people to play the game? Larger populations are healthy for communities and games to grow. Ugh… it feels so rare to come across a guardians who are chill and helpful anymore. Every time a do an LFG people are like afraid of me haha, that I’ll kick them cause they don’t have the item i asked about. And the forums are just the worst my gosh. I have no words for the forums.[/quote] Most chill people sit in discord and play pve/pvp together. Only later to see people complaining on forums we have no life and need to touch grass....

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                            • Edited by Ripper: 3/30/2022 1:08:13 AM
                              Because it's been like a lot of years and people still don't know how to make the blight public event -blam!- heroic!!!!

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                            • [quote]My gosh, where is the good part of the community?[/quote] Gone, like the good part of Bungie that left this company years ago.

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                            • Sounds like somebody lost! Go play warframe [spoiler]satire[/spoiler]

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                            • Edited by Nero <3: 3/28/2022 9:08:36 AM
                              Been like this for a while now. I've said it plenty of times aswell, this community is the worst i've ever experienced in any MMO. And yet Bungie and content creators make it look like this is the most wholesome, welcoming and helpful community. All literal lies. Mainly Bungies fault by catering to the extremes of the player base rather than to the vast majority of players. They cater to the few new lights and also to the extremely hardcore content creators and neckbeards. No middle ground to be found. The vast majority of this community is elitist, egotistical and uninviting. That is a fact, not an opinion. That's why me, a person who generally enjoys peoples company, mainly plays stuff solo in this game (besides raids obviously). There are some really chill people who are kind hearted and welcoming but thats like a 1 in 1000 chance to stumble across in this community.

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                              • Edited by Aether, Primordial of Lght: 3/29/2022 10:07:46 AM
                                [quote]Toxicity levels rising. [/quote] Sounds like a rock song title from the early 2000's.

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