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originally posted in: Stop asking for nerfs already
Edited by Cheebruger: 3/1/2022 11:22:05 PM
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I can put myself in most mindsets, but I just don't get how people still think that games can survive without nerfs. This isn't a PvP game? Sure. The focus isn't on PvP, but it holds a rather large part of the playerbase (regardless of what forum users say about how it's all just people doing quests), and its sandbox isn't something that should be ignored just because PvE players want things easier. Plenty of nerfs have come out of strictly the PvE side, and most of them have been pretty justified. The game cannot handle players just getting progressively stronger, or we wind up with The Reckoning; where Bungie said the only way to possibly challenge players in a sandbox as ridiculous as the one they were dealing with was to literally cheese them by throwing them off the map- the same way we did to raid bosses. So, it's either getting literally cheesed by game design, or have guns and abilities that actually allow for fun and reasonable challenges to be designed.
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  • Edited by Corrick II: 3/2/2022 12:02:38 AM
    That may be true but why in almost ten years is this still a problem? There have to be better ways to make us feel powerful while also not getting caught in the power creep trap. Bungie just doesn’t seem all that interested in finding the balance. Instead they seem happy whipping us back and forth on a pendulum of untested weapons and ability combos. It’s a problem, but maybe not 100% a player problem. This is Bungie’s responsibility too.

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  • Oh I absolutely agree, and I think the issue is that Bungie is both trying to appeal to the crowd that wants one bullet to kill raid bosses, and the crowd that wants game balance. And in a sense, they keep getting away with it. They release something disgusting, the power fantasy people go wild, then they nerf it and the people who want balance are happy. Repeat every content drop.

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  • I’m a firm believer in the happy medium and Bungie just doesn’t seem to get it there. Sometimes they get close but most of the time they live in extremes.

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  • See that's the thing, a lot of people I've spoken with agree that Destiny is usually like 2 or 3 things, big or small, away from being the best game they've ever touched. It's just that not everyone agrees on those things, so to appeal to the widest group possible, Bungie leaves everyone in purgatory.

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