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Disagree. Just because Rasputin had a contingency plan, doesn't mean he used it. Also, his contingency plan is full of conditional statements, not all of those conditions were met. Rasputin shut down before he activated LOKI CROWN. The Traveller herself indicated that Earth was where she would stand and fight, and that was [b]before[/b] Rasputin was even created. Also, "IT" is the Darkness, not the Traveller. That same card indicates that the Traveller (referred to as the Gardner) also fought back against the Darkness.
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  • His contingency plan allowed him plausible deniability and the Traveler 3 card could lead one to believe the Traveler was hit by one of Rasputin's weapons. He may never have said he initiated LOKI CROWN but nonetheless could have. I never insinuated that "IT" was the traveler, I clearly reference "IT" as the Darkness. I only referenced that card to show that Rasputin had Caedometric weapons (Aurora Knives).

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  • The Gardener is an entity older than the Traveler

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  • The Gardener is clearly the Traveller. What are you basing this off of?

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  • When a Thantanout drowned off the shores of time,he described the Black Garden and before the Vex came into our universe there was a Gardener I think Pahanin?

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  • Edited by Wheeze: 5/31/2016 1:23:44 PM
    You mean Pujari. Pujari and Rasputin aren't using the same terminology. When Rasputin says "gardener," singular, he means the Traveller. When Pujari says "gardeners," plural, he's having visions of the Vex.

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  • Oh ok Might re read the grimoire

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