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Leviathan mentions that the AI it created made the mass relays for greater efficiency with use of the mass relays "your civilisation is based on the technology pf the mass relay, our technology. By using it, your society develops along the paths we desire." Every advanced culture that uses the mass relays will eventually encounter the citadel listen to Javiks conversation with Shepard.
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  • Edited by Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 1/11/2016 12:30:58 AM
    Yes, but to everyone the Citadel is just a space station. One of the big reveals in the first game during the conversation with Vigil is that it's actually a giant mass relay that the Reapers use to jump right into the galaxy in a surprise attack. No one else knew that until this cycle.

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  • The Protheans realised this and the connection between keepers and Reapers which is why they built the conduit. The citadel is after all a trap.

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  • Edited by Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 1/11/2016 2:01:41 PM
    Yes, so if it really was a random race from a long ago cycle that designed the Crucible, they shouldn't have known that. They couldn't have. If they did, they would have left that crucial information with their designs for it. Even if it wasn't for the sake of the Crucible. Everything about the Crucible, and the lack of information about it suggests that logically, it has to originate with one of the only two sources that could have designed it. The Catalyst itself or the Leviathan. The Catalyst refuses to talk about the race that designed it and when Shepard asks the Leviathan about it they give what is one of the most obvious tells to indicate that someone is withholding something. They look down to the side for a second and then give the most generic of responses.

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  • The Protheans left the plans for the crucible in the Mars archives is utmost safe to assume that previous cycles left the plans in a similar fashion. Remember the harvest can take centuries to complete which is probably why the crucible is usually found late into the harvest. As for the originator of the crucible design, who knows random race, leviathan or catalyst take your pick.

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  • Edited by Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 1/12/2016 3:16:35 AM
    The Ptotheans just stumbled across it like we did. They have no idea where it came from either. We're just forced to swallow the generic explanation of an unknown random race from a cycle long ago. It really doesn't make sense considering the knowledge that would be required to design it. Either the Leviathan or Catalyst or both are withholding something for a potential ulterior motive, or it's just bad writing.

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