Yo Sols, check this out.
Autos: Nerfed because Iron Banner data showed "everyone" using the SUROS. (20 auto rifle headshot bounty, really?)
Pulses: Nerfed. (Buffed because "data" once again showed a trend that didn't agree with Bungie's bullshit philosophy. Nerfed after they realized their buff made pulses "OP" with autos still being garbage.)
Handcannons: Nerfed. (Buffed Thorn for NO reason. Let Thorn final round glitch go unchecked for 2 years. Never fixed it. Thorn buff created Trials of Thorn and Iron Thorn. "Hey guys, Thorn is OP as fck, let's fix it. Wait, no, that's stupid, let's just RUIN ALL HANDCANNONS instead." Oh, what's that? Handcannons are the new meta now because autos and pulses suck balls? Better nerf those too! -1000 ADS accuracy, range, and ammo capacity, because fck pve players, right?)
Fusions: Nerfed. (Hey guys...let's nerf the accuracy on fusions...they 1 shot too often. Oh shit, guys we forgot about the range, let's nerf that too. Okay okay, but WAIT, we still need to nerf the accuracy more, just one more time guys. OMFG HOLY SHIT GUYS, nerf the accuracy AGAIN they are still too good. *sigh* finally. Now that they can't hit the broad side of a barn, let's nerf their ammo capacity and range just to fck over pve players. Why? Because fck pve players that's why.)
Shotguns: Nerfed. (Hey guys, shotguns are too good after we nerfed fusions. Everyone in the forums says they have too much range. Oh yeah? Don't worry, we've got this. Let's give everyone a Felwinter's Lie with Rangefinder and Hammer forged. What could go wrong, right? Oh and while we're at it, let's let players reforge weapons so everyone can get shot package and knee pads. Fcking great idea right? Oh shit, everyone has God roll shotguns, wtf do we do? Guys, man your battle stations! We need a priority 1 nerf right NAO! *Phew* that was close. 2 months later* Hey guys, I know we nerfed shotguns twice already, but they are STILL too good. I know, let's get rid of shot package, because, well we don't really know how to balance anything so this must be the problem. *6 months later* FOR CRYING OUT LOUD they STILL have too much range! This is the last nerf, guys, pinky promise. Now shotguns can only 1 shot at melee range, slow players down, and reload and aim slower. Surely they've been nerfed enough, right? RIGHT?!) -->me awaiting 2016 shotgun nerf 4.0 -_-
Scouts: Buffed. (Nobody uses scouts, guys. They need a buff. 6 months later* Hey guys, people still aren't using scouts. This can't possibly have anything to do with the fact that all of our maps are tiny as fck. Scout rifles fit our philosophy perfectly!)
Snipers: Untouched. (Nobody ever snipes so snipers must be fine, right guys? I mean I know shotguns and fusions are ass now, but that doesn't mean everyone will suddenly start sniping...right guys? Guys?)
Sidearms: Untouched. (Why the fck did we even make these things?)
Tl;Dr summary of Destiny's pvp balancing since launch.
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Give this guy a metal!! Bravo!!!!
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Bump bump bump and freakin BUMP.
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So true...
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Give this man a cigar.
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Bungie.... WTF Now were pushed to use Scout, sniper and shot guns.....Boring as #$%^ This is just really frustrating the gun nerfs are a joke pushing us to use guns we dont want to use, if they left the Pulse rifles how they were they might be a contestant for the now over powered Scout rifles Sik of being killed by Mida tool and Last word. Please fix this asap the weapons that are dominating right now shouldnt be their needs to be more options and weapons in the game for us to use i should be able to kill a skout with a pulse i could before why not now? seems like we get pushes around from weapon to weapon....
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This guy sums it up nicely.
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Flawless assessment of Sidearms. I gotta really good laugh out of that.
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Lol me too.
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Great summary. Cozmo please address this and give us a timeline on the hot fix that resolves some of this. Also, how about a Q&A session with your senior management so we can understand where the fuking disconnect is?
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Boom! There it is!!
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I am now killing pulserifle users with my AR with a high ROF and high caliber rounds. Seems to work wonders on any other class/weapon that requires ADS to be used effectively.
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That's the problem with auto rifles in my opinion the high rate of fire ones and the mid rate of fire ones are good, but the slow rate of fire ones need a buff.
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Well said.
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Email this to bungie. Maybe if they see all this garbage on paper they might look at one another, then have a meeting about how they let it get this stupid, then have another meeting about the first meeting. Then have a meeting about how to "fix" the weapon balancing, decide it is too much drain on their resources because the silver aint flowing the way they forecasted in another meeting. Annnnnd, in the end, nothing positive for the gamers will come out of it.
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Whole lotta truth right here.
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Too true..
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Hey I like my sidearm, saves my ass when using NLB.
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The whole sniper thing started with trials,we'll never see reforging again because it makes us too strong.They nerfed the -blam!- out of us because of the way we dominated the game in year 1.Oh I also guaranmuther-blam!-ingtee that thorn and ghorn get released together when we're all tired of doing the same shit to bring players back.
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I love this.
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This.
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Lol. Good post. You sir are on to something here.
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Yeah its called common sense