Why don't other countries see Isis as a problem??? Really??? Maybe it's because WE don't see them as a problem. No, our president views them as an annoyance, a JV team. "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing people that he doesn't exist"- Winston Churchill. "Open your eyes and see the creatures for what they are"- Disturbed (yes I quoted them. When we lead from behind the world goes to hell in a hand basket. And if guys like Bernie Sanders or Barack Obama aren't willing enough to call this "JV" team evil and aren't willing enough to make Isis feel our wrath because "we don't wanna waste taxpayer dollars" or "it'll be Iraq all over again", then they shouldn't be in any public office. If the United States won't do something to prevent this evil then no one will. We didn't do anything about Germany in 1939 and 50 million people had to die because of it. For those of you who think that this will kill innocents you either lack the knowledge of our military strength or play too much CoD. Yes a couple may unfortunately get caught in the crossfire and that happens, but soldiers are trained to minimize collateral damage and civilian casualties. In other words they don't go mowing down everything they see. They are trained to sight a hostile and kill it. If done right civilian casualties should be next to nothing and if they happen they certainly won't be caused by our troops. So mr. President and Bernie sanders, buck up and see these animals for what the really are. Show people what the devil looks like and lead the front of the charge to wipe this disease known as Islamic terrorism of the face of the planet. We can easily do it, but do they have the guts? My guess is no I don't believe so.
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Edited by DB5: 8/22/2015 4:12:46 PMWhy would the US expend so much blood and treasure to defend the interests of allies that aren't willing to put the same commitment? What has KSA contributed to Op Inherent Resolve for example? Next to nothing. Look at the airstrike figures. Now when you combine that with the fact that IS poses literally no threat to the West, I see no reason for the US to stick its neck out any more than it already is.
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War mongering attitudes like yours don't solve problems, they create them.
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I'm not war mongering at all. Have you seen what Isis does to people? Have you noticed that they chant death to America and actually try to kill us with terrorist attacks? They behead people, burn them alive, blow them up, drown them, shoot them dead, stone them all just to get to heaven to go see Allah. Well if they want to see Allah then I think we can help out with that. Do you want to see what the devil looks like in action because I will show you the videos of Isis committing all those atrocities if you need to. And if that doesn't outrage you and make you realize that this evil needs to be stopped once and for all then I don't know what will "the greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing people he doesn't exist" i think you fell for that trick
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Edited by Britton: 8/22/2015 5:47:49 AMYou think the thoughts of a fool. I'm in the military, I know what they do. But if you think us getting involved in another occupation of the middle East will fix things you're a fool.
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It is not foolish to stop a problem. The fact that we are in debt changes things. We personally can't stop this problem through war.
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Edited by Britton: 8/22/2015 4:56:56 PMEven if we were in a massive surplus going to war against an insurgency who's message is "America is evil" will only give them a greater cause to rally people to, and essentially validate them. The regions nations must step up the problem.
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Exactly what I was thinking
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Well if I'm so wrong at least give your reasons why because I'll happily listen but attacking my way of thinking will get you nowhere and only proves my points further
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Actually they don't prove your points further at all. If you want reasons, look no farther than our last middle East occupation.
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Rushing in head first is what has created instability in the Middle East. Our position isn't that nothing should be done, it's that we need to be more thoughtful and strategic in national security. Leading isn't going in alone, which is what we've done before. We need our allies' support and not just ideologically. Also, many people are skeptical of our starting/expanding wars because of how much money is put into lobbying and media to make these threats seem bigger than they are in order to gain support for more military spending. In short, people think it's the military industrial complex finding reasons to get more money. We've spent over half a trillion dollars every year for 15 years with little to no benefit for the American people. War is profitable and the people profiting are incentivized to convince us to make more war.