So I saw this video on the forums. It's a great video overall but a lot of people ask why we don't have trading and at 8:41 in the video he tell's you pretty much why. Overall a great video might answer some things you were wondering about as well.
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Whoa how did you get the thunderlord Well you see i ran the nightfall for weeks on all my characters and I got shards and strange coins so i went into the crucible got last place and it dropped