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Edited by index: 11/5/2014 5:06:50 PM
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PETITION: Remove ability to vault strange coins/bind gear to character upon equip

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The ability to vault strange coins should be patched out and gear should be bound to character upon equip because people are exploiting the ability to create 3 characters of the same class and share the gear and coins among them thereby allowing them to gain more coins than designed for use with Xur and allowing them to grind for the raid 3x as much. This is an exploit. Just like the cave. Just like pushing Atheon off the cliff. They must be punished. Bungie make it so. EDIT: LOL the amount of hate is delicious. I'm wondering how many of you complaining are people who bitch about how Xur is ruining your precious exotics yet farm like this for strange coins. Hypocrits! 2nd EDIT: I like a posters suggestion to make Strange Coins bound to the character they were earned on. This would easily solve half the issue. The other half addressing people who are doing the raid to increase their RNGesus attempts could be likely fixed with some tweaks to the rewards. Such as guaranteeing at least a minimum reward of something decent and worth their time. It seems that people feel entitled to this method because of Bungie's lackluster loot mechanics. Also, another suggestion to allow the other two character slots to be filled with only the two other classes the person doesn't already have would be nice as well.

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  • It doesn't hurt anyone why are u so mad about it?

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  • Edited by the ben obiwan: 11/6/2014 7:14:44 AM
    Am I exploiting by doing everything 3 times? If somebody wants to do the content 3 times on the same character then who cares? Sounds awfully boring to me, and they can only get 1 character maxed this way. Are you saying I shouldn't be able to do it on my 3 legit 29's and combine my winnings? Why? Because you can't keep up with just 1? Because you don't have the time? I honestly can't understand why you think this is a problem? Is it because people can afford stuff off xur? What good would he be if you couldn't buy stuff off him? It's not like you can chose any exotic in the game, you just get a random assortment of goodies (plus sunbreakers). Oh, and what on earth would you use the vault for if items were bound to each character? I do everything 3 times because I have the time, and I was pretty happy when i realized that I could share everything through the vault. It made me feel like all the time i had spent levelling multiple characters was worth it. Like borderlands bad ass ranking that added stats to all your characters, you get rewarded for putting in the extra effort. You have not put in the extra effort, you get nothing. Deal with it.

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  • They still put the time in to leveling the extra characters and had to do the raid/other events more than once for the rewards, therefore they earned whatever they get. Also 'Bungie make it so"? Really? You sound like an over privileged child who's mommy does everything for them.

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  • Doing the raid on a second character allowes you to use the weapons/gear that drops on that character anyways. So switching them to you other character doesn't quite make a difference.

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    • If Bungie didn't rely so damn heavily on a solely random loot system without loot tables... this wouldn't even be a problem.

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      • Destiny. The most social single player FPS ever. Now featuring, emotional issues! Whatever you first touch is bound to your character forever!! Due to a "fear of change" engine we designed, your character experiences intense psychological turmoil every time he even approaches a loot chest! We have also developed a radical new system designed to emulate feelings of isolation and insanity! We call it the "IS ANYONE THERE?!- matrix" Experience the wonder and fear of a mind driven to the edge! Your mic is always on, but we have routed all chat signals to rapidly fluctuate, you could be on Mars and at the same time talking to EVERYONE in the tower or to no-one at all!

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      • I made 3 titans because I had to, I had a 29 of each but never got raid gear. RNGesus hates me. It took 21 full clears of the vault to get one of those titans to 30. I literally got chest piece tuesday ,finally. Believe me I didn't want to do it that way but after being screwed so many times it was the only way. Hardly an exploit, I put in the work and finally got the reward. You could easily do the same.

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      • what about people who rank up three different classes high enough to be able to do the weekly and nightfall (like myself)?

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      • The vault was purposely designed to allow gear and resource sharing. I don't think it's a far stretch to assume that this is exactly what the devs had in mind. One reason for this, and this is my theory, is this is another way to keep you playing. For me, I was not going to create multiple characters, but...after playing my hunter for awhile, and accumulating gear for other classes, I decided to make a warlock and a titan. YOU believe this to be an exploit, an oversight, yet, the vault was purposely designed for this very thing. Glimmer is shared, resources are shared, vault is shared. These are on purpose designs. This is hardly an exploit. Pushing a boss off a cliff? Exploit. Using the vault the purposeful way it was designed? Not an exploit.

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      • Even if people have 3 of the same character, they still have to work for things 3 times to get them. Vaulting stuff helps my 29 warlock, whom I spend most of my time on, support my 24 hunter.

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      • Its not a exploit.

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      • Edited by Velexia: 11/6/2014 6:46:31 AM
        Not no but -blam!- no. (And I have a character of each class)

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      • As expected, your suggestion is not popular. I have three characters, all of different classes, and I appreciate the ability to swap items and gear between them. I disagree that swapping coins between characters is an exploit, much less one on par with Atheon pushing. Who are you to say how many coins people are supposed to have and how fast they should be able to earn gear?

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      • Also given the vote went 2000+ in the disagree category compared to almost 300 in approval i think its safe to say the community doesn't want anything to do with this

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      • I've mentioned a similar idea but not about strange coins...more about only getting assendant material in raid/ from raid bosses. Also I disagree with binding items because some people play the same class for all 3 of their character slots and getting something for a hunter bind to me when I am a titan would piss me off

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        • This is defined as "Emergent Gameplay" if people want to use 3 of the same class that's their prerogative. Binding items is no good here anyways since it only goes to the same hands, there is no trading system so nobody else can get them so no need to lock them. If there were a trading system binding gear would make sense. Also coins are just another form of currency, hardly exploitable given that they cant be reliably farmed outside of 7 day intervals

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        • Lol no, just because you don't want to make another character, level 27 titan, doesnt mean we shouldnt b3 able to exchange gear with my other character. They need to up the limit, I want to out all my exotic, and raid guns in the vault but 20 is to low.

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        • Exploit, sounds more like somebody just can't keep up with making 3 char, and doing all the missions for the week within the allotted time.

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        • Edited by miusoka: 11/6/2014 4:14:29 AM
          It's not an exploit switching armor to 3 of the same class. People do it cause the loot system is insanely rng. They do it so they have a better chance to get a full set of raid great for said class. And as for the strange coins, the vault is shared. Mats, motes coins, and ammo can all be shared. Xur is a 2 day thing once a week. They bound what currency to obtain rep gear which is the major end game currency. Strange coins are rewards for your characters to spend on special gear and upgrades. It is not reputation sensitive.

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        • It was made to encourage people to try out different classes, or 3 same ones, either way, is to increase the replayability. Remember that first lv30 hunter guy? Bungie complimented him here in the forum and even mentioned that he made 3 hunters to achieve that. Why would bungie made that an example? Think about it, it will only do good to the game. And you just have to get used to the mechanics. Make 3 char if u have time. Don't think about how much others are gaining but yourself. Just have fun.

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        • Sorry man, just another dumb post. Whining about things that effect you in no way whatsoever. If you people quit complaining so damn much and actually played, this wouldn't bother you anyways. I don't understand how you can call it an exploit? Please give me one, just one reason, as to why this is an exploit? There are three characters, three slots, and nowhere that says you have to have one of each character. Complaining about how people are smarter then you is no reason to punish them. And no, I did not make three if the same character. I have one of each.

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        • We're entitled to those extra coins/gear because we put in three times the amount of work that you do every week. You're more than welcome to start two more toons. Stop being so damn salty.

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          • When 89% think your wrong. Your wrong

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          • Wow you sir dont know what to take advantage of really i dont TWO FUKS if someone has the same shit i do we can have a whole convo about how we had to grind strange coins or any other mission to get it

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          • I only have two titans bc of raid n once I have helmet n gloves ill delete one and restart hunter but take him slow bc yeah my Titan got a lot of warlock gear on drops so that I had full legendary and exotic to equip but leveling takes a bit lol. But prolly hold off on hunter till after I see my luck with Crotas end.

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