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9/26/2014 6:15:18 PM
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Everything Bungie has put out there states that they are creating a game that "they" want to play. They as in, Bungie. Not you. Not the community. Therefor, one can deduce that they don't want your vision of where the future of Destiny will go. They have a clear vision. The Vocal Minority doesn't need to muddy it up. I know this tends to break away from the mold of AAA studios, but they are trying to meld aspects of many genres together. It's ambitious. It may fail. Just ask CCP. I know deep down that the forum whining is coming from those who care. But if you care, go back and reread the press releases, the social interactions during the development period. You'll see the truth, the vision, and the resolve. You'll also see the hope, that gamers will share their vision, but they know it may not be the case.
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  • Edited by Gohlar: 9/27/2014 11:16:11 AM
    BS. This is about money. You think what we have now is their ideal beginning to their grand vision? Are you kidding me? The game got gutted for financial reasons. Seriously, pull your head out already...

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  • The last time I was forced to go with someone else's vision I ended up with Han not shooting first and jarjar binks. A good company can have a vision and present it to the masses. When the masses come up with some ideas that maybe you didn't think of or start playing in a way you didn't envision but are having fun, I believe it should at least be considered. You'll never make everyone happy, but the conditions could improve. If bungie keeps making a game only they want to play, they may be the only ones playing it.

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  • And financing it...

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  • The question is, how long would YOU wait? If you poured your blood, sweat, and soul into something, how long would you hold out until you made changes? Bungie has access to serverside info that we'll never see. The forums represent <10% of a games population, generally speaking. What is the truth? Are server populations dwindling? Are sales dropping? Are certain in game activities not being played? Overplayed? Exploited? Unless Bungie or Activision releases any of that info, those of us here can just speculate and wait for patches.

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  • I don't know. I'm pretty patient. Thing is I'm starting to get bored. I worked hard to get to lvl 27. Now that I need ascendent shards they made it harder to get them. I don't expect them to hand me stuff. Last night I played as my husband because he can't play as often and was bummed his character needed better gear. I played as him because he was lvl 21 and I felt like I was accomplishing something. With my character I feel like all the hard work is futile. Today I'm taking a break all together. I've been playing almost nonstop with the exception of weekends when my husband is on. I will keep playing. I know a couple of weeks is a drop in the bucket considering they want this to last years. It's just the content right now is the same stuff over and over.

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  • I agree. The game is good up to about 22 or so. Bungie thinks the game starts at 20. If that's the case, the game isn't very long. My armor needs relic iron. It seems it's much rarer compared to the other mats.

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  • Relic iron is the easiest to get. Look up youtube relic farming. 50+ pieces in 15 minutes.

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  • I need a lot of relic iron too. I found that if you go to mars, through the tunnels that eventually come to an area where there's a lot of buildings. Like a bus terminal and multi storied buildings lined up like there used to be streets. (I can't remember what this area is called). There tends to be iron against walls, cars, sometimes even in the lower floors of the buildings. You can run in a big circle around this area and the stuff repawns. Not always in the exact same place but I ran around there for a while and picked up quite a lot. Watch out for high level vex inside one of the buildings. There are many loot chests here also which will have iron in them.

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  • You do realize that we live in a market economy don't you? Even so I will remind you that means. It means that Bungie as a firm literally makes money by catering to the aggregate wants of the community, this game was initially sold as something that would cater to these needs however that is now debatable for a sizable population of the community. Yes sizable considering it has been reported by not only video game industry news sites such as IGN it has also been pointed out by many of these industry figures as having problems that the community gripes with. So if you wish to toady to them fine. However considering how Bioware is degrading due in part to the same kind of thinking that you are presenting and also Microsoft with the Xbone, you are wrong in believing that the market will or should just shut up and buy into their vision. Because much like the result of the PS4 and Xbone as soon somebody else comes along and does what Destiny does better or we are given a substitute good Destiny will suffer tremendously (as Microsoft did). Destiny so far does nothing that any major company cannot do better (except maybe gunplay, maybe) and since it sold well I can guarantee you other companies will be pumping out competition for it soon enough. You may feel correct but we have seen enough examples to know better, your argument is incorrect and goes against the basic foundations of our economy.

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  • I think you misunderstand me. This is not my thinking. What I wrote was just pointing out what it is Bungie is doing. Market economy or not. It matters not to me. I've watched Dust 514 struggle because CCP tried to meld their vision with what the community wants. If Destiny fails because Bungie holds fast to their vision, then so be it. That is the real beauty of our economy. Someone's vision may gain traction with a large audience. Sometimes no one sees it the same, and it fails. You can stand in line for this ride, or you can go to another attraction. I don't care either way. o/

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  • Possibly I am running on fumes. Either way I will be standing in line for Star Citizen until something better comes out to occupy my time, Destiny may succeed or fail depending on how they utilize feedback I am just waiting for the final result.

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