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NO!!! crow is not uldren, and he will never be uldren again. he knows what he did, or at least whatever savathun decided to show him, but i have faith that he [i]will[/i] be a better person and he [i][b]will[/b][/i] redeem himself fully. he already has redeemed himself as far as i’m concerned! it’s just going to take time for him to heal after learning the truth. i wish we would have told him, heck even mara could have told him in a way that would soften the blow, but nevertheless i believe in crow. and he even has glint to guide him instead of dealing with it all on his own. [spoiler]you have no idea how HEARTBROKEN I WAS THIS WEEK AAAAHHHHH [i]I AM NOT GONNA BE OK FOR A WHILE[/i][/spoiler]
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  • [quote]crow is not uldren, and he will never be uldren again.[/quote] Equal opportunity has met unequal results. Exactly like uldren? Maybe. Maybe not. But tell me he's not going to be influenced by those memories (if those are actually factual/not manipulated memories too) when -blam!- hits the fan. But you believe you. Sure nice of Bungie to not make it our choice on that matter. It was real nice of them to do that... [quote]he knows what he did, or at least whatever savathun decided to show him, but i have faith that he will be a better person and he will redeem himself fully.[/quote] Do you think you get to redeem yourself when you murdered a vanguard leader? Killed your own people? Riven literally spawned an entire curse with petra having to constantly lead her dead/reborn soldiers back to life WEEK BY WEEK and what was he doing? Where did glint LEAD HIM TO? Uldren is going to be in there. This is not going away. And if he is responsible post guardian for another dead member of the vanguard? Will you hold yourself accountable for -blam!- it up that badly and not realize that Mara and Petra made the right judgment call? He trusts Savathun now over all of us because she wanted a puppet in the ranks of the vanguard which... he has been. To put it more simply? Tell me when he stopped or started being a puppet.

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  • savathun is trying to get to him yes, and i’m sure she has something very malicious planned. i’m sure crow is also struggling with now knowing his uldren past. but from a story-telling standpoint, this is where things are gonna get good. he will come close to turning back to his “uldren ways” but why would bungie tell the same story over again? why introduce crow if he’s going to just go back to being uldren? they’re telling a redemption story here, and if they’re not, it was a waste of character development. so will there be a time when he comes close to becoming a villain again? probably. but will he stay a villain, or decide to not be something more than he was? i don’t think so. but we won’t know until we see everything play out i guess! crow has become my favorite character, so i’ll be pretty upset if bungie pulls a game of thrones and throws all the character development out the window

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