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[quote]Lightfall will be a second collapse[/quote] the Second collapse already happened. S11. Light Fall is believed to be the Finale stand where Guardians will make their choice, and when the Bomb Logic will be in full effect. Bomb Logic referring to the Combined forces of: Guardian Hive Eliksni Cabal to destroy both the Traveler and the Black Fleet from ending the GAME.
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  • [url=https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-tj4qfe9afs]The Babylon 5 ending?[/url]

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  • [quote]the Second collapse already happened. S11.[/quote] That could be figured to be partial to a collapse, but the collapse saw more than worlds being taken. The traveler literally became immobile and did a desperate last stand to push back the darkness and whatever blast from ghaul dying waking them up? Is simply the cogs on the machine being turned on again. The true collapse will be the subjugation of the light in humanity. Like our ghost said, before that moment? There was no such thing as a guardian. Merely light-bearers. We shall see if the capability to come back from the dead will be enough of a gamer changer, but with the darkness fleet? Good luck finding a way to permanently down THAT fleet...

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  • that's where the Bomb Logic takes hold. that was the second Collapse. just because less happened, doesn't mean it wasn't a collapse. our Warmind Defense Collapsed. F our Reach was Collapsed. F our Bases were Collapsed. F definition: having failed completely the Traveler then Escalated its response. like you bring 20 people to kick my butt, i then Escalate that by bring 50 to back me up. I Believe now that the "Terms" have been set...its up to us to chose what side. which makes me think in Witch Queen, Savithun will show us what both sides are hiding.

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  • Edited by Archival Mind: 8/19/2021 3:08:24 AM
    <We kinda know about both sides though? We know the Gardener has a heart of gold (we have its thoughts to itself) but is also wasn't really self-sacrificing until it came to Sol and reached an epiphany. We know the Winnower is pretty much the devil as an ethereal death God that inhabits the bodies of a hundred vessels with the intent to destroy 99.9% of all life in the universe (probably ALL life given its nature). Both Gods need to die for this war to end, but let's win the Wager for the Gardener first. At least then the universe will not be wholly doomed if it dies in the following war.>

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  • Edited by PhNx Hellfire: 8/19/2021 2:09:28 AM
    I get your logic on this matter, but all of that is a theory regarding Savathun and if you want to believe her truths then you will find the tricks just as factual as her lies. truth is only what we perceive it to be and wherein that power. Savathun, for example, appears to have truths because she is influencing from the shadows where we haven't found. Our power is not the bomb logic either. It is the power to unify against a singular threat and neutralize it which makes a longer shadow to feed Savathun. It's still the same cycle. The issue now is Savathun has not spoken about the pyramids and simply influenced the pyramids power to stop us from learning. She is a manipulator first and foremost.

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