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originally posted in: CROTAS END AS A DUNGEON
5/21/2021 1:51:10 PM
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Bungie is no more... old

What is it with players wanting to bring all of D1 content into this game? This is part of the reasons there isn't really any decent new content in this game. Just just recycled content and the rinse and repeat seasons that has left this game stagnant.
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  • Look we probably aren't gonna get a new raid every season, so adding in old content during non-expansion seasons is alright.

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  • There is no decent content because bungie refuses to make it. It's far easier to copy/paste with a few changes and reap the rewards. Easy money with little effort.

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  • Nostalgia is great, and I get the fact that maybe we should still have access to old content, but requesting it as NEW just blows my mind. NEW content please...anyone requesting otherwise...for real???

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  • Kind of ironic, when you think about it. The same community that doesnt want recycled content, asks for the recycled content. "Community" in general, i know you and many others didnt ask for it to be back.

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  • To be fair, the community isn't a hive mind lol. I think bringing back old stuff is good personally, as long as we're getting way more new stuff.

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    I don't mind some of it coming back, but it would be nice to see more new content that isn't removed every 3 months.

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  • To be fair, they are letting the season content stay for the year, so thats quite nice. Thats the thing with vog. If they brought an entire raid back, who knows what they will next? On the other side, they did say they changed the raid, so i can be wrong. We will see this tomorrow.

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  • Edited by Grim Thimble: 5/22/2021 5:33:30 AM
    Also: What is your point?

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  • That they arent making activities and making them go away after 3 months. Thats quite nice. And that, well, they brought a whole raid back. Who knows what they can bring back now.

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  • VoG will always be THE PINNACLE raid for me, but it is still stale content regardless. If reanimating old activity excites anyone, then I don’t want to hear complaints about Eververse, PvP, stasis, weapon balancing or anything else. Enjoy mediocrity friends...

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  • Because nostalgia is a one hell of a thing. If EA can charge $60 for a bundle of a game series thats over 10 years old AND when all their prices added together are 20 dollars. People will do anything for nostalgic stuff its crazy, and Devs take full advantage. Its only smart people who see what this really is.

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    [quote]People will do anything for nostalgic stuff its crazy, and Devs take full advantage. Its only smart people who see what this really is.[/quote] I'm just looking at how some things from D1 like the VoG, IMO don't belong in this game or any raid from D1 for that matter.

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  • Exotics maybe because they can be changed drastically, but stuff that’s literally Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V is stupid to add into a game

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  • I'd be all for D1 content in D2, but it should be free and definitely shouldn't be the focal point of a DLC or a season.

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  • D1 is still a paid title, and its content is being put into D2 for free. Doesn’t that seem like a big F u for anyone who bought D1 as it still costs money to buy

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  • [quote]What is it with players wanting to bring all of D1 content into this game? This is part of the reasons there isn't really any decent new content in this game. Just just recycled content and the rinse and repeat seasons that has left this game stagnant.[/quote] Honestly, D2 has been such a massive let down and Bungo has shown they are incapable of cranking out high quality content on their own. D1 will always be the height of this franchise. I hate that Bungo is recycling content and I hate that they aren't putting in much effort in curating the franchise. Either they realized they peaked in D1 and are using that content to artificially lift up the content quality of D2 or they are out of idea and no longer give a shit but must keep this cash cow going. I believe it's a bit of both.

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    [quote]Honestly, D2 has been such a massive let down and [b](Bungo has shown they are incapable of cranking out high quality content on their own.)[/b][/quote] It's been this way since the split that it shows who was actually creating the decent content we did have until Bungie decided to remove a lot of it. The game would have been far better off in Activision's hands.

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  • As much as I hate the bring d1 crap back and the laziness that accompanies it, lets be honest, bungie has created some good content for d2, look at pressage and prophecy

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  • [quote]As much as I hate the bring d1 crap back and the laziness that accompanies it, lets be honest, bungie has created some good content for d2, look at pressage and prophecy[/quote] I just cannot honestly say that D2 is a step up/forward from D1. Because to me it just isn't. I hate they changed the primary/secondary/heavy. I hate that after almost 7 years they still can't get a grip on what to nerf, when to nerf it, and how to nerf it. I hate that they still treat the playerbase like guinea pigs. I hate this legendary/powerful/pinnacle engram shit. I hate that Eververse has become such a prominent fixture. Overall, I hate how neutered everything feels compared to D1.

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  • [quote][quote]As much as I hate the bring d1 crap back and the laziness that accompanies it, lets be honest, bungie has created some good content for d2, look at pressage and prophecy[/quote] I just cannot honestly say that D2 is a step up/forward from D1. Because to me it just isn't. I hate they changed the primary/secondary/heavy. I hate that after almost 7 years they still can't get a grip on what to nerf, when to nerf it, and how to nerf it. I hate that they still treat the playerbase like guinea pigs. I hate this legendary/powerful/pinnacle engram shit. I hate that Eververse has become such a prominent fixture. Overall, I hate how neutered everything feels compared to D1.[/quote] destiny 2 is imo, better than d1. I also am not sure how you're able to say d2 is neutered compared to d1 in the same sentence where you hate the prime/pinnacle system, something that d1 does worse. destiny 1 is a fun game to run back and forth to, but destiny 2 is the only one of them that's keeping me around.

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  • D1 was far from perfect, just like D2 is. I can make a long list of crap that needed to get better in both games, look at D1 realistically, not with rose colored glasses and nostalgia

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    [quote]look at D1 realistically, not with rose colored glasses and nostalgia[/quote] Realistically, D1 was designed a hell of a lot better in just about every single aspect of it. Yes, it had its issues, but nowhere near to the point where Bungie removed half the game, we paid for. When it comes to the loot system, leveling, replayable content, skill tree, more freedom to use what we want to use, etc... even things like how IB was designed in D1 with the loot system is a hell of a lot better than the broken one we have for D2. Nothing personal but the "nostalgia" is used way too much when anyone brings up D1 when in reality D1 is actually the better game.

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  • [quote]Nothing personal but the "nostalgia" is used way too much when anyone brings up D1 when in reality D1 is actually the better game.[/quote] It might be used to much purely because most people defending d1 as the better game can hardly list what makes it objectively better. Most of them ignore all the times it nearly kamikazed itself at and best you get a few people admitting that it just had "issues".

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    D2 has some good things about it but the core game is broken and that is a huge issue. Bungie refused to use what worked for Destiny and in the process, the game has changed the way too many times making things overcomplicated when in reality all they had to do was... "keep it simple stupid".

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  • Maybe you forgot these from d1: storytelling sucked, if you wanted to read lore, you had to go to an external site, same thing with public events, had to go to orbit every time, weapon and armor leveling system was terrible, rng for some weapons was worse than what we have now ( go ask how many ppl never got a vex mythoclast or got it years after vog 1st came out, long content droughts. I am not saying that d2 is better or d1 is better, but we humans tend to forget the bad parts of stuff after years go by and only focus on the good parts.

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