No, we are our own Dark Guardian counterpart, since we were not given a proper birth legitimately within the universe.
We alone, have the potential to be anything we want [game title], thus our ability of Character Creation and "The Guardian" can be any race or gender. Doesnt matter. We have no origin point.
This is what ultimately diverted Elsie's timeloop.
Question is, who initiated this chain of events. Vex don't time travel. I mean they do, but it isnt complete time travel.
The only one who has the potential ability is Savathun. Entering a singularly after all. Black Holes have Negative Engery, which is required for Time Travel. There is a reason why Riven says that when witnessing Savathun, it was like she was watching a scripted play being unfolded.
Alternatively, Light is basically a White Hole. Opposite of the Black Hole, it can only give. It's light rays doesn't get absorbed, but angles inward and barely doesn't touch, then folds over and over, creating a self generating horizon with time loops, and that's how Ghosts are able to revive Guardians.
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Her timeloop hasn’t been diverted. This is just another instance of her trying to redo things. It also conflicts with the multiple timeline/universe narrative. But consistency is a joke with the ever evolving/retconning they do.
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Edited by Spooky_Ari: 12/31/2020 7:26:42 AMI think diverted may have been a too broad a term by itself. What I mean is, there is an extra variable in this time over previous cycles which has caused a leaning toward deviation, and this is what we are experiencing in game at the moment. The victory timeline. All other timelines are existing in possiblity, see the weak anthropic principle, and this one in particular is the one we are seeing playing out because it is the correct one to allow a victory, in some form. Since this is just a game and all, I will assume the game ends in a victory.
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Edited by MC 077 Lasombra: 12/31/2020 7:49:39 AMI looked it up briefly. The other timelines aren’t existing in possibility. We’ve already interacted with them, season of Undying. The Vex draw units from them as well, that’s been a thing since the beginning. It would make more sense for her to be thrown from one timeline to another other to affect change to make the conditions for victory via some timeloop mechanism. One timelines fails, she gets thrown into another to try again. Over and over and over, whittling the multiverse down until victory. As it stands in the lore, she seems to be just looping in one timeline, making the whole multiverse thing...utterly pointless. What do you think the extra variable is?
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The thing about that is that we don't know for certain if that is the case. Elisabeth explicitly states to us that, in prior timelines she visited, we were no exception when it came to Guardians who were corrupted and became Dark Guardians. From a story perspective, it was Elisabeth who pointed us in the direction of the Black Heart [url=https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/no-love-lost]once she realized it was the likely source of her misery.[/url] The closest we get to the player being an "outside force" with no origin point within the story comes from the rare Fourth Wall Breaks, as spoken by a number of Ahamkara-based exotics. But the story so far suggests otherwise - our Guardian has been resurrected before in past timelines, and in past timelines succumbed to Darkness. Things are different in this timeline potentially because, as mentioned before, Elisabeth pointed us in the direction of the Black Heart and we destroyed it before it could corrupt Guardians.
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Yes, we are in multiple timelines. At the same time we have no origin point. There isn't just one singular timeloop, there are multiple. This is why we are the sole being capable of traversing the Corridors of Time and saving Saint no matter how hard Osiris looked. The event he was looking for hadn't happened because we had to have made it happen. Meaning we had to have already had the power to do so already. The thing about Elsie, is that upon one of her revive cycles, she realized something that shouldn't be here "other than myself". So imagine Elsie's origin timeline was what she saw as the beginning of the timeloops. This is only her perspective, but this worldline of her's could be within the timeloop of another's and so forth. So while we seemingly have an origin in her multiple cycles. Within the broad view of loops within loops, we could not have existed at one point, and then suddenly we did, due to some mysterious event. Kind of like the origin of the universe. The timeline we are on now is like the weak anthropic principle. Multiple iterations of it exist, but the one we are on now is the victory timeline, where one can could only exist as proof to ask the question "Why is this universe playing out the way as it exists?"