Yes but if you’re addressing an issue with a specific archetype then that should be made clear. Let’s not give Bungie the impression that 450s and 360s need to be dialed back. If anything they’re mediocre at best.
Well, you have really bad lethality (unless your enemy has less than like 4 resilience or something, then it's mediocre), no mobility, pretty "meh" range, and not-insane accuracy beyond a good intrinsic recoil direction stat on most models.
180 Cannons still have really good mobility and ease of use.
180 Scouts have their range, albeit they're flat downgrades to a 200 Scout at all but 90+ meters or something crazy like that.
I doubt they're getting that impression because I specifically mention two 600 rpm autos. And even so they're probably pretty good, but not used because of the 600s. Autos should be treated as a low floor low cap weapon like they should be.
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