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Bungie never punished players for sitting outside of the area and ignoring the oracle debuff when doing the well encounter. Bungie never punished people for shoving that boss off or shoving atheon off. Bungie never punished people for skipping to the end of the abyss run. Bungie never punished players for the numerous ways to skip/cheese the bridge encounter. Bungie didn't punish people for pulling the cord on crota. Bungie didn't punish anyone for the stacking orbs cheese against oryx skipping the majority of the fight. Bungie didn't punish people for using the loot exploit to get way above the LL for the wraith of the machine raid. Bungie has a history of not punishing players for design flaws they've made. They aren't suddenly doing this. They're was no reason to believe they would punish players for doing this prime engram exploit. Especially when this exact same exploit (using loot exploits to climb levels fast) happened with wrath of the machine. You guys are making mountains out of mole hills just because you're salty. It's sad. Even if you want to ignore the actual history of cheeses/exploits that Bungie has let slide the fact of the situation is the team who won was never leading the pack in the raid. Datto's team did for a majority of it and no one on his team exploited. Which empirically proves that whatever "advantage" the exploit may have given it clearly wasn't as important as player skill. Datto's team choked like they always do because they always get in their own way. Meaning they over think a situation or get waay too frustrated with their selves. (datto especially beats himself up.) Everyone was "stuck" on riven for a long time. And it wasn't because she hit hard or because the adds hit hard. It was entirely because people made dumb mistakes or random inconsistent bs (eyes not taking crit damage, white nail not proccing sometimes against riven, tentacles not slamming when they should, etc.) RDM is full of good players. Just as every other team who were on that point. To be like this towards their hard earned achievement simply because of something so factually trivial just goes to show how immature the player base can really get. I wanted datto's team to win. But i'm not here trying to rip away RDM's accomplishment. ya'll need a reality check and need to grow up.
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  • They never had to change a raid in order to make up for this kind of leveling abuse. It cut out a massive amount of people from even being able to participate. It wasn't about just not punishing people, its about them modifying the raid to ensure streamers who abused the system were basically some of the only people who could even participate.

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  • Can you link to a statement of them saying they changed the raid? And the abuse was far worse with wrath of the machine.

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  • Data miners who have been dead on from reading the settings in the past had it stated at 520LL, much like they had done in the past. That means for the update and opening Bungie had to manually go in and multiply the LL multiplier on the raid specifically to account for people who exploited to get a higher LL. And we know from most stats, almost no one could have even hoped to compete in a run. It had nothing to do with puzzle mechanics, it had everything to do with LL capping for entry. And they knew HOW MUCH they would have to multiply it because they knew how many people had what light level above 520,so just enough for streamers and a few of the hardcore but out of them, the exploiters.

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  • As far as I remember the raid thing was "leaked" to be a 550 activity. So it appears leaks were wrong.

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  • Didnt see 550 till it appeared on the map. Prior to that we knew it was 520. Again, the last minute patch had to change all that.

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  • BUNGIE also allows cheaters to play D2 on the PC platform.

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  • Preach. People praise the loot cave and farmed 3oC on the ketch for hours, but this is suddenly too far?

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  • if I had to guess it's because there were actual tangible rewards this time around for first place. Where as prior it to this raid it was just a nod to them off the game.

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  • Who cares about a belt that 6 people got and a jacket that 12 got. People are mad because they like to be mad, and bungie is literally the devil.

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  • was more referring to the emblem and guaranteed raid exotic drop. But those are nice things too.

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  • Couldn’t have said it better

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  • ty

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