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Edited by bilbo t baginzz: 6/24/2016 9:53:23 AM
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Im not sure you understand how control is played or works. Its a game of clash with kill points modifiers, [b]IT IS NOT AN OBJECTIVE GAME TYPE[/b] well not in the sense of Rift or zone control. Capturing the zones are a secondary objective with the main objective being getting kills. Getting kills is what gets you points. [b]Now in regards to "farming K/D"[/b] This kind of player is me, im the kind of player who doesnt just run in blind trying to capture a control zone without clearing enemies first, im the kind of player who protect the scrubs who do this, im the kind of player who doesnt push spawns which causes them to flip, im the kind of player who understands how Control should be played. Do i go out of my way to "farm K/D" no... no one does, this is just something scrubs say because other people end the games with a higher K/D and higher score then them, This is what scrubs say when they dont understand how to play control and this is what scrubs say when they think control is an objective game type. TL;DR im sorry you dont understand how control was designed or meant to be played, its clash with kill point modifiers and [b]if you dont like it go play zone control.[/b] EDIT: [quote]1.) Players who farm K/D by not playing the objective will see an extreme decrease in their ability to farm Stats.[/quote] This isnt a thing. Its Scrub mentality, confirmed by looking at your stats. I now understand why you want it changed as currently you are a hinderance to your team cause you cant kill for shit so you want to change the gameplay to make yourself seem useful.
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  • Damn I love this guy^^^^^

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  • [quote]Im not sure you understand how control is played or works. Its a game of clash with kill points modifiers, [b]IT IS NOT AN OBJECTIVE GAME TYPE[/b] well not in the sense of Rift or zone control. Capturing the zones are a secondary objective with the main objective being getting kills. Getting kills is what gets you points. [b]Now in regards to "farming K/D"[/b] This kind of player is me, im the kind of player who doesnt just run in blind trying to capture a control zone without clearing enemies first, im the kind of player who protect the scrubs who do this, im the kind of player who doesnt push spawns which causes them to flip, im the kind of player who understands how Control should be played. Do i go out of my way to "farm K/D" no... no one does, this is just something scrubs say because other people end the games with a higher K/D and higher score then them, This is what scrubs say when they dont understand how to play control and this is what scrubs say when they think control is an objective game type. TL;DR im sorry you dont understand how control was designed or meant to be played, its clash with kill point modifiers and [b]if you dont like it go play zone control.[/b] EDIT: [quote]1.) Players who farm K/D by not playing the objective will see an extreme decrease in their ability to farm Stats.[/quote] This isnt a thing. Its Scrub mentality, confirmed by looking at your stats. I know understand why you want it changed as currently you are a hinderance to your team cause you cant kill for shit so you want to change the gameplay to make yourself seem useful.[/quote]

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  • Imagine spawning into a game on rift, heavy ammo spawns, you're put against a fireteam of six and you have two allies, 15 seconds in its just me left. Instead of dunking the rift to finish the game, they spawn trapped me all with heavy and didn't pick up the spark instead killed me as my feet hit the ground on spawn. If this isn't boosting I don't know what is.

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  • And how often does that happen too you?

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  • Rarely ever, but it's still out there.

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  • Exactlt... OP acts as though "K/D farming" happens in every second control game which couldnt be further from the truth. Id go as far to say that i havent seen a one sided game which leads to so called K/D farming in control since year 1.

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  • Edited by EssAndEmm2013: 6/24/2016 6:36:50 AM
    i guess you've never even seen the top 10 players in k/d one of them has a top rank of 53.0 K/D i wonder how he got that ... EDIT : lol ... first off, i was going by memory, second off, i pressed the keys in the wrong order, it was suppose to be 35 not 53, they are literally right next to each other i was just about to bash you again, because i never said 53, i said 35; but sure enough, i looked at my post and had a typo, either way, 50, 40, 30, a constant KD of that manner, or even the ability to farm it (you know they farmed it) happens, even if it's rare, it should be completely eliminated from Objective Play

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  • Just to stir the pot, that guy with 35 kd only has 1 hour play time, and it was in salvage. I don't think that it really helps with your argument much.

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  • Do you have a link to him or know how to show me on destiny tracker?

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  • You do realise that what you have asked for in the changes is what Zone control is. Zone control is a game which has nothing to do with K/D what so ever and it has everything to do with hold 2 or more bases longer then the other team.

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  • Provide a link to him for me please.

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  • i am not your slave, stop your condescending begging and destiny tracker stalk the leaderboards like you do other people when you take a dump on their raw K/D stats no cookie for you!!

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  • So you make up statistic and when i ask for a link you basically say im being lazy and should go find them myself. That as well as your OP just confirm how clueless you truly are.

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  • i gave you facts that i already did the leg-work for you ARE being lazy, you just want to argue, i don't have to defend myself, i am correct - - - also, my OP is fine, and the majority of players agree with me you are literally losing this argument on every single possible front, i don't have to waste time on you i have cupcakes to make, darling

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  • How is he losing the argument? You literally haven't brought up a single valid point. All you've done is say "I guess you haven't seen the top 10 players in k/d" and then go on some insane ramblings about your typo and how it doesn't matter. Then he asked for a link (which, btw, you should provide to begin with, he shouldn't have to hassle you for them. You're the one making the claims, not him, so you should be providing the links) and explained why the top 10 k/d players are irrelevant when it comes to your description of "farming k/d" and why they're irrelevant to the discussion. Meanwhile, you've said literally nothing of substance and just claimed to be right. And here we are, with you still having not actually addressed anything he said. You claim to be educated, but you debate like a moron.

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  • Here i did your research for you... http://destinytracker.com/destiny/leaderboards/all/kd?grouped=true&page=1 Didnt find the guy with a 53 K/D like you said though. [quote]i gave you facts that i already did the leg-work for you[/quote] No you made shit up for me lol.

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  • i made an edit on the post in question, feel free to enlighten yourself

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  • Excellent, ive just disproved your theory of K/D farming for top top players. [quote]I wanted a link because just like the number 1 ranked player who has a 35 K/D he did not "K/D farm" like you describe. The guy with a 35 K/D went into salvage and played 2 games getting a 20 K/D and a 9 K/D with a team which isnt hard to do if you wanted to camp for the number 1 rank K/D in the world. He then goes into clash which he has a 5 K/D in but all he did was go into a game get a single kill and back out. He then went into free for all and out of all the game he played he only got a single kill then backed out. K/D farming like you described is not a real thing. The only K/D farming that exists are people who want to be ranked number 1 or top 10 and that involves them going into a game getting a single kill and backing out.[/quote] Now what ive said above which is what the top 10 players all apart from the guy ranked number 8 have done is not how you described K/D farming. [quote]1.) Players who farm K/D by not playing the objective will see an extreme decrease in their ability to farm Stats.[/quote] ^ this does not exist

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  • one example does not stand for millions of other players it exists hitler killed millions of jews (35 kd guy) but there aren't any direct people killing millions of people now (average destiny player) that doesn't mean there isn't genocide in the world (i'm correct) - - - regardless if you are right about 1 person out of over 30,000,000 players, your example does not stand for all players players like HUSH and JMPxx have nearly a million subscribers between them, and they are famous for farming 30,40,50 kills in a single match CONSTANTLY by playing control and rift and **NEVER** playing objective same goes with almost ANY montage; always farming off objective players you said you don't rush the zone like a scrub and die what if EVERY person had that mentality, and NO ONE ever captured a post if EVERY PERSON played like you, you'd never have a zone captured oh yeah, that's called CLASH

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  • [quote]i guess you've never even seen the top 10 players in k/d[/quote] According to you there was at least 10 example. [quote]you said you don't rush the zone like a scrub and die[/quote] Of course not, you dont help the team when you have a single zone captured and you rush in giving the other team 5 easy kill (1000 points) [quote]what if EVERY person had that mentality, and NO ONE ever captured a post[/quote] If everyone had the mentality that Kills come before zones the game would be played correctly, kill people, clear areas then capture a zone, if the enemy takes the zone dont rush in solo as its not the end of the world. [quote]if EVERY PERSON played like you, you'd never have a zone captured oh yeah, that's called CLASH[/quote] Yes, thats what Control is, its a game of clash with kill points modifiers, if you want to play control how you think you should play it you are in the wrong game type. Go play Zone control in which it is essential that you capture zones as that is the only way to get points. In Zone control the amount of kills you get is irrelevant, if you dont capture zones you dont score points.

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  • Its a fact that the majority of player have no idea how to actually play control. They should all be playing zone control if all they want to do is be rewarded for capturing zone. You provided no facts just fake statistics that i asked to see a link to which you could not provide... until you do provide a link they will remain as fake statistics.

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  • lol, and if i provided a link, you'd just make some other excuse up i've dealt with "you clones" for years on these forums you ask for a link because you believe there is no possible way the kill-shot to your argument is true, and as long as they do not go back and get the link, you can leave the argument soundly feeling you are the superior cause, because they obviously must be fakes because they did not cater to you and if a link is provided, you'll just twist it again in your favor "oh, well those stats belong to the top 0.000000000000000000001% so even though you're correct and i'm a douche bag, we're talking about the majority of the playerbase, those guys would win no matter what 100% of the time, scrub git gud" i may be a house wife, but i am highly educated; also used to being abused, so here you go choke on it, because you ain't getting no cookie, dear [url=http://destinytracker.com/destiny/leaderboards/all/kd?grouped=true&page=1]Choke on It[/url]

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  • [quote]i guess you've never even seen the top 10 players in k/d one of them has a top rank of 53.0 K/D i wonder how he got that ...[/quote] There no excuse to make because there is no link, you were talking through your ass just to make your point seem legit but turns out it was. I wanted a link because just like the number 1 ranked player who has a 35 K/D he did not "K/D farm" like you describe. The guy with a 35 K/D went into salvage and played 2 games getting a 20 K/D and a 9 K/D with a team which isnt hard to do if you wanted to camp for the number 1 rank K/D in the world. He then goes into clash which he has a 5 K/D in but all he did was go into a game get a single kill and back out. He then went into free for all and out of all the game he played he only got a single kill then backed out. K/D farming like you described is not a real thing. The only K/D farming that exists are people who want to be ranked number 1 or top 10 and that involves them going into a game getting a single kill and backing out.

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