Yes - this meta is boring as fck.
Bring back re forge and add some diversity in what's been used.
Please for the love of fck don't mention the house of wolves shot gun meta and try and keep it civil! ;o)
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4 RepliesI'd like reforge to come back. I'm tired of having to farm for decent rolls on my Legendary weapons. Example; Red Specter. Just saw a guy with a 0.11 KD for the game and get a God roll RS. It had Focused Fire and Counter Balance.
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2 RepliesThere is ALWAYS a meta for every game ever. Don't you remeber the pistol in Halo. The BR in H2. Every end game gun that deals the most damage in the shortest period of time becomes the meta. Bungie could just make 3 different variations of every wep, with the same stats BUT each could have different a very different final perk to favor different play styles...kind of thing
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Reforge takes diversity away because everybody rolls the same perks Reforge destroyed pvp Reforge is the reason we can't have nice things Go grind and stop bitching In case yiu forgot reforge is the reason shotguns lost hammer forged, rocket launchers lost proximity, and sniper rifles lost final round. Do you have amnesia?
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I would favor a HUGE increase to legendary drops rates over reforging. Getting on legendary weapon every 30 or so crucible matches is just stupid.
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Edited by activeseven: 2/24/2016 6:44:06 PMWell, reforging was removed for a reason. The problem here is that a 'meta' even exists, and this is because most players just follow the crowd. They see elite players using certain weapons and assume that if they used that weapon as well then they too would excel. This is catastrophically wrong because not all players have the same skill/comfort level. Sure that hand cannon may kill with 2 body shots and 1 head shot but can [b]YOU [/b]reliably do that every engagement? Sure Black Spindle is great, but how often (honestly) do you miss that precision shot and realize you would have been better off with a 1ks? Very few players understand[b] the intent of a given weapon[/b] and are willing to put in the time and effort to extract its full potential. The best thing about Destiny is the HUGE diversity of weapons, perks, skills etc. By following the meta, those players lose out on one of the greatest parts about Destiny;[u] the ability to custom build your character based on your playstyle, a build/loadout that extenuates your strengths while assisting with your weaknesses. [/u] A lot of people complain about the meta but c'mon, we the players are the reason there is a meta. Too many of us are just followers and too few are experimenting and [u]building our characters around us as players.[/u]
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5 RepliesI disagree because then every gun is going to be a copy of a certain setup. This isnt just for shotguns, its also going to the for snipers, fusions, scout rifle's and next to that the loot drops will be useless because you get a certain gun, reroll it till its perfect and then you dont need any other gun anymore
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Luke Smith said that weapon reforge was a huge mistake on their part and that they would not repeat that mistake again. No matter what you say.. It will return to guys seeking the same rolls on the same handful of weapons and it will just switch the meta to a couple of guns in each class (except for Fusion rifles because they will suck until bungie buffs them). Essentially you'd just be trading the current meta for another one.. possibly the same one but with 90% of people using the same roll/load out. I think it would be great for PVE.. but the PVP players will start crying buckets of tears all over again about the new meta.. probably be Hawksaw, 1,000 yrd stare, Conspiracy theory D, and PDX 41-45.
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4 RepliesYea so everyone can get a 1000 yard stare with hidden hand and short gaze.
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1 ReplyAgreed, it will alleviate a lot of the frustration currently felt, as 90% of the drops we get end up on the scrap heap. Not too mention it's actually fun rolling the dice.
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4 RepliesI agree. And contrary to most, I don't believe in a one size fits all "God roll". My God is not the same as another persons. What I find fun and complimentary to my play style may not be the same as another person. I like third eye and firefly on scouts. Maybe someone else prefers triple tap and explosive rounds. Or whatever. Maybe someone else hates scouts. To each his/her own. The whole shotgun mess in the past and the current sniper mess is not a result of creating "God rolls". It's a result of poor weapon balance overall. Crucible is designed for those type of weapons to rule regardless of their roll. I could run around with basically any shotgun and wreck, regardless of roll. It's the nature of the weapon, not the result of a supposed "God roll." I say bring re-forging back, that way I can find my own personal god roll, to counter other people's God rolls.
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1 ReplyReforging won't change anything ... Bring back the meta at the start of the taken King , best one yet
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I like stroking the forge thought, so I say BUMP!
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11 RepliesEdited by Durandal: 2/24/2016 6:38:47 PMAre you dain bramaged? Reforging resulted in the least diverse weapon spread ever. Not only did everyone use the same 3-4 guns, they only used them if they all had the "ideal" rolled perks.
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Seriously. When you could forge your weapons there was so much variety. All shotguns could compete with each other. All snipers could compete with each other... all fusion rifles could be good. Those were good times.
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at least for IB weapons, that's what made them special T__T
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No. The meta is boring because the vast majority fo the games weapons take forever to kill anything.
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Reforge was advertised in the dlc and paid for but taken away wtf? They should bring it back if we paid for it. Or give us all a partial refund.
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1 Replygrind for drops, or grind for materials never stop grinding; but i do agree we should be provided more "diversity" for what to grind
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I was fine with not having reforge but just because I want to reforge my Imago's into Fatebringers I'm bumping this!
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3 RepliesLol what do u mean everyone would just have a 1k stare with hidden hand and a shotgun with rangefiner
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2 RepliesI would give up my one good Nut for Reforge to come back. X
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Reforge would not fix the meta. All those people using thousand yard stare? Now every single one has a god roll. If anything it will exacerbate the current meta. And people will find a god roll for 2 or 3 primaries too and then all we'll see are hawksaws and hung jurys
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I posted some suggestions for future content and mentioned weapon changes that I reckon could break any meta. [url]https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/193145560/0/0/1[/url] Basically, a weapon's core stats should be changeable via weapon modifiers. This way you can change your high impact AR to a low impact bullet hose. Instead of reforging for the "god roll" you can modify the weapon to cater to how you play. Modifiers should also not be able to upgrade a particular stat, like range, to 100. Unless it's an exotic modifier....hmmm, that should be interesting, adding an exotic modifier to a legendary weapon. gonna add that to my post
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6 RepliesEdited by Unknown: 2/24/2016 2:07:52 AMLol Ima mention it because the irony is just to great! At least when we had the shotgun meta it was face paced and they wer easy to ra Take down!!! By the way reforming will just make it worse witch is why they took it out, only way they can fix it is if they buff other guns! https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/192690329/0/0 Chaperone