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Edited by HarlesinCharge0: 1/13/2016 6:26:09 AM
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Edit: I probably should have put a little more thought to writing this so let me explain. I do believe vaccines work the way they say they do. There's enough honest smart doctors who can prove that. That's fine. However we can't prove that they don't cause autism either because a, the way it causes autism hasn't yet been found or b, doctors just view it as a necessary risk and tell people it's better overall and just ignore it.
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  • Well. That was the dumbest thing I've read this year. Off to a great start, 2016.

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  • autism is caused by people smoking while pregnant

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  • innocent until proven guilty

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  • Actually we totally can (and have) prove that vaccines don't cause autism from the dozens of studies conducted to put fears like yours to rest that [u]SHOWED NO CORRELATION BETWEEN VACCINATED/UNVACCINATED AND AUTISM RATES. [/u] Hell, a group of anti-vaxers even tried to fund a study to show the "link" and even they found no correlation. So yeah, vaccines don't cause autism. Period.

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    Should I add that funds are distributed to big pharma companies from Dept. Of Health and Human Services..the parent agency of NIH for such research, funny how no correlation can be found right now.

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    This has not been proven. There have been numerous proposals to further study it to the NIH...they refuse to look into it more at the moment.

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  • They don't want to invest further into researching it because it'd be beating a dead horse. Study after study has shown the same thing. There was no reason to suspect them to cause autism before, public concern was raised, the tested the hell out of that theory and they found that it didn't. And then they repeated the experiments to make sure it wasn't a fluke. And this isn't just the NIH as you suggested. It's any health organization, anywhere. Any country, not just the US. Even the W.H.O. All of them are behind it. Even with all of that data, and all of those groups saying yeah it's good, some anti-vaccine group called illuminati on it and funded their own study's. Guess what? They came to the exact. Same. Conclusion. But you're right, they can't find a correlation right now. Probably because there isn't one.

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    Alrighty.

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  • Do you know that mutations and defects in genetic code can actually happen?[spoiler]...[/spoiler]

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  • Not ones as big as the ones that would cause autism.

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  • Just so you know, mental retardation and autism are two separate afflictions. Neither can be attributed to vaccines.

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  • [quote]Isn't it interesting that most retarded kids parents are usually normal? [/quote]

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  • I love how you say I'm wrong but don't come up with a counter argument. Literally every parent I've met that has a retarded child has nothing wrong with them so you -blam!-in tell me how I'm wrong then? Yeah there may be one or two retard parents that have a retarded child but it doesn't happen often, know why? Because NO ONE wants to date a retarded person(or the majority of people anyway) so again how the -blam!- does two perfectly sane healthy individuals produce a mentally ill child? Where is it coming from?

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  • Edited by tjustie: 1/13/2016 5:35:11 AM
    Well duh. It seemed as if you were using it in conjunction with your anti-vaccine argument as if it was meaningful to the "debate" over vaccines, in which case the facepalm is still relevant. Edit: I missed the last part of your post. Refer back to facepalm.

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  • Ok I guess you can explain where the illness is coming from? Do the doctors pull shit out of their ass and smear it on the baby? Or are you really gonna stand there and tell me there's THAT many carriers of autism that aren't doing Punett Squares before they have kids(obviously slightly joking but yeah I highly doubt there's just an insane amount of carriers)? [spoiler]yeah yeah I know facepalm. That's way better than an educational response![/spoiler]

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  • Wow. What a load of uneducated bullshit. Dude, read a book, get educated.

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  • From liberals? No thanks. They lie and assume even more than I do. I don't trust anyone on anything anymore unless I can see it with my own 2 eyes or its unassailably proven correct. It may be the vaccines it may not but something is making our kids retarded and I refuse to believe that the entire US population is a gene carrier for autism because if that were really true, then wouldn't we ALL be retarded? It's coming from somewhere dude.

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  • Holy shit, what kind of backwoods swamp do you live in? Because depending on your answer, this it might explain why most "normal" parents have retarded kids in your back of the woods [spoiler]Incest, because you're a hick or something and you live in a hick village[/spoiler]

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  • You go believing everything everyone tells you go back to sleep there's a good sheep. Nothing I can do about it anyway I'm just disgusted with our leaders that shove shit into us for personal gain. I'm not saying that vaccines don't prevent the virus but we don't necessarily know that they don't cause autism either.

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  • We can't prove that it doesn't because it's such a wild and baseless accusation with no evidence whatsoever to support it It would be like me saying "sleeping gives you aids, prove me wrong" like there's no evidence to support it but wait... People that have aids have slept before... So that must mean that sleeping gives you aids right? We don't know that it doesn't right? Idk man those government bastards up top think they know everything, those bastards!

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  • You do know what a vaccine is, right?

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  • Not denying that they don't actually prevent virus infection but I also think they could possibly cause autism at the same time. Who's to say they don't? FDA? Yeah ok take their advice. These are the same people who approve medications only to later find out that they cause more harm than good. I'm sure they know their stuff. Again the drugs they approve actually work but they have side effects so what I'm saying is that it's a trade off. Vaccinate your child and he will be immune but he has a 25% chance of becoming autistic.

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  • Are you basically saying that 25% of the vaccinated world population have autism? Uhh...

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  • A vaccine is simply a weakened virus that is injected into the body, so the immune system flags it for eradication. Also, things like Down's syndrome and Aspergers have to do with heredity. I can see how someone not knowledgable about that specific subject could correlate vaccines with autism, but, in short, mental conditions leading to someone being classified as "retarded" is caused by genes, not vaccinations. And in case you wonder why we have multiple vaccinations, it's because the virus mutates.

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  • Basic science is to say that they don't cause autism.

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