HOW TO fix your "awkward range" problem
Shotguns should have a range BUFF. But there's a catch... (Lowering Impact)
Bungie has got it all wrong in their methods of nerfing shotguns. They just keep reducing the range to shit but the range isn't why people hate shotguns.
The REAL reason people hate shotguns is that it can kill you instantly, with one mindless pull of the trigger.
They can reduce the range down to 1ft but people will still complain about it killing in one hit.
The solution: make shotguns kill in TWO shots but increase the range
If a sniper rifle can't 1 shot you in the body then a shotgun shouldn't either. Increasing the range makes sense because a real shotgun shot doesn't just stop after 10ft. The slow fire rate of shotguns would balance the higher range stat if they were two hit kills. The spread of the pellets at further distances would even make shotguns a 3 shot.
This would also make players weigh their options more in choosing perks.
Do you want shot package? (To reduce spread and ensure a consistent 2 shot)
Do you want range finder? (To get kills at longer distances but you would have to hit them 3 times)
Do you want full auto? (To increase fire rate and get the two hit kill off quicker)
I believe this is the way to fix shotguns. No one complains about the Lord Of Wolves because it is a two shot with longer range. And you can get a ton of kills with it really easily but still no one complains because it's not an instant kill.
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Invective is the solution you are looking for in shotguns. It's always a two-three shot kill in PvP. It has some range and decent impact but is almost never a 1 shot kill with full health. The gun also has the RoF to get off the extra rounds with the recoil climbing like a real weapon after each round. It's the closet thing I have seen to a real 12ga auto in the game.
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Edited by L E G E N D9602: 9/14/2015 10:35:24 AMIf other guns don't match that. WIth your 2 shot kill and someone else with 1 shot kill you will be crippling yourself.
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I don't have it :(
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Edited by SilverPulse: 9/12/2015 3:02:57 AMThe bounty was "A Dubious Task". It's not super hard to complete. I would strongly recommend you complete it if you ever get the chance! Not sure if it will still drop now since the 2.0 update... I have enjoyed this little auto shotgun. It not a Fellwinters Lie but she has her perks. You can gun down shot sliders because of the high RoF. You start shooting when they start sliding. Three rounds and they are dead. Also remember the gun generates ammo itself. Nice to have when your short ammo. It's about 4 rounds every 15-20seconds. It looks like you can get the "new" TTK Invective from Xür or that is what the armory states. You will have to be a level 30 to use it. Great.. more grind...
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If they nerf Shotgun damage in PVP, instead of Range, and not touch PVE shotgun damage, that would be the perfect idea. Why didn't they hire you to work there?
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Yeah keep the impact for pve I can't even kill a captain in PoE with a full clip of found verdict
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^Yep when was the last time you heard a captain complain about nerfing shotguns.. But bring this up with Crucible players and they will bitch and wine, because of how many people there are right now using them.