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originally posted in: For Those who are leaving come TTK..
8/26/2015 2:32:59 AM
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No story. No communication between CMs and consumers. Useless updates. Idiotic gun nerfs and buffs. Double talk and tap dancing around real issues of pricing and content. Making all your progress essentially moot for year 1. Constantly changing DLC currency. Essentially playing a beta for an entire year. Horrendous servers for PvP. False advertising for an "open world" game. No optional matchmaking support. No in-game grimore cards or in-game LFG. Extremely vague in-game explanations of why you're dead, who the traveler is, what the darkness is, and why you're fighting at all. Zero explanations for any of the factions or with the Awoken, Exo, and other enemy races. That's just what was on the top of my head.
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  • bump

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  • 1, 2, 3! C-c-c-combo Braker

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  • Damn dude you got it all listed down xD

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  • ^this. 1. The lack of any compelling story 2. Deceitful marketing practices; insulting customers 3. It's clearly a game made with little imagination with PVP as its endgame; which isn't enjoyable for me. It is what it is. It isn't going to improve. Today's Twitch showed more of the same stuff. If that's for you.... Great. If not, most won't buy it or wait until it's dirt cheap..... But great games are on the way..... Many are likely done. It is fascinating to see many accept being lied to and treated with such overt arrogance by this company. It's a great watch in human behavior.

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  • They're adding story dude

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  • Where was it at launch? That's the point.

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  • Bump. I will continue to play but everything you said is 100 PERCENT TRUE.

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  • 'No story.'' Story is in the taken king. '' Idiotic gun nerfs and buffs. '' Name one.

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  • AR Nerf. And then just leaving the Thorn/TLW/Shotgun meta for so long.

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  • What about the auto rifle nerf

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  • I was thinking about pve. Sorry for the confusion I think anyone with two brains cells can see the nerf was disaturous. Though I think the game would be close to just as much TLW, thorn, red death even without the auto nerf that's just my opinion though and is in no way fact.

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  • The nerf effected both pve and pvp.the only change to weapons that didn't affect both was the shotgun buff for pve.everytime they change the weapons a new op weapon shows up

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  • The only story in TTK is that you've killed Crota and oryx is coming for you. That is the story. Don't expect them to explain anything because they won't. Icebreaker and blackhammer for a start. All the auto rifles? They're only being buffed now to suit them because there are loads of AR's in TTK. You're such a fan boy. Wake up and smell the deceit.

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  • Black Hammer was an exotic but was legendary. Simple as that. I already went over the icebreaker but the jist of it is that the icebreaker is not a primary it's a gun that you can pull out use then do adds then pull it out again (without having to grap ammo) as pretty much every boss encounter in the game is adds then dps boss then adds.

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  • First off, i was sold a game on the premise that it had a rich narrative and cinematic story line, most cinematics are people telling my its too complicated, or they dont have time to tell me things. I didnt pay $100 dolalrs to pay another $40 for the story i was told i was getting. Idiotic gun nerfs....how about the second coming of fusion nerfs. How about the overreaching blanket nerfs of etnire classes to make up for one or two. There is so much wrong that they are having us pay double to fix.

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  • Edited by projekt3000: 8/26/2015 3:04:25 AM
    The story is in a DLC that's being released a year after the original game comes out? WTF kind of sense does that make? The game was advertised as having a "deep rich story with lots a lore". Yeah, the flimsy amount of story is buried in grimore cards that you have to look for...online.. As far as an idiotic nerf, let's take the auto rifles for example. They're getting a much needed buff after they were nerfed because they were being used way too much when the game came out. Let's take the Ghorn as another one. If it's not even going to be upgradable to year 2 stats why even nerf it? Why make the Icebreaker have a longer ammo regeneration cycle? They didn't like people sniping their bullet sponge bosses to death so they decided to do that. Complete stupidity. Why are you drinking that Bungie kool-aid so hard and riding that Bungie D even harder?

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  • I know.its so pathetic of them nerfing there best guns just because people were killing there bosses too quick.the bosses have no tactics of there own except ground slam that can one hit kill so you can't go near them and weapons that can kill u in a second.so your options are basically get sniper crits or hit them with rockets and get back in cover,oh and deal with ads.they don't realise that after you have beat these bosses 100 times your not doing it cause u like the boss fight,your doing it for loot and the quicker you can get it done the better.atheon is the best boss in game and that's cause of the portal jumping not the actual boss

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  • Edited by jack: 8/26/2015 5:06:41 PM
    ' know.its so pathetic of them nerfing there best guns just because people were killing there bosses too quick.the bosses have no tactics of there own except ground slam that can one hit kill so you can't go near them and weapons that can kill u in a second'' Right so qodron, the poe orge, urrox, skolas all have no mechanics? Also they nerfed the ghallarhorn so you can't just by pass entire fights. It's like you don't even follow the game. They make an awesome fight like qodron then all people do is kill him in 10 seconds with ghallarhorn and don't do the fight. THAT'S WHY IT WAS NERFED.

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  • Don't know what you mean by the Poe bosses because one does not give a -blam!- sir

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  • ''the flimsy amount of story is buried in grimore cards'' The amount of story in the grimior is not flimsy at all. '' Let's take the Ghorn as another one. If it's not even going to be upgradable to year 2 stats why even nerf it?'' The ghorn was op. They balanced it. This is pretty simple logic. How don't you understand? 'Why make the Icebreaker have a longer ammo regeneration cycle? '' Because they didn't like how people were using the ice breaker. They were using it as a primary when it was intended to be used for great burst damage and have it be so you didn't have to worry about ammo not so it would be a primary. It was designed so you could kill adds then gring it out and shoot the boss or a wizard or something put it away kill some adds and repeat. Not use it exclusively.

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  • So in other words your agreeing that just because bungie doesn't like something they have the right to take it away from everyone? bungie makes our decision a huge percentage of the time and we are stuck with barley any options for PvE because bungie has a thing for PvP the reason for the nerfing of "Gjallarhorn" and "icebreaker" and notorious "auto rifles" wasn't only for OP purposes it's because those weapon s were helping people finish raids and strikes faster they don't want people to get bored with their cheap short strikes and glitchy raids (don't get me started on those patches) so what's the logics let's Nerf weapons down to the dirt the the point to where it's almost like shooting BB guns at a boss and making us play a 3 hour night fall and even raids have gotten so annoying with rebalancing barley anyone plays it (also because raids and year 1 weapons and armor will be obsolete in the next DLC which I paid for and now will be useless) and for some reason your ok with that ? bungie is making everyone give up their treasured weapons and armor that had to be sought for and turning a blind eye to their fans mocking us saying we lack the intelligence to not think before we buy things pretty much called their fans retards and being Greedy has led them to a harsh future it's their fault either your just stupid or your a bungie employee in disguise being and A-hole on the forums. Oh and you have one hour before your sex change operation better hurry to it

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  • Why is it their decision how we kill a boss?

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  • 'Why is it their decision how we kill a boss?'' The same reason it was their decision to nerf the loot cave, patch atheon and templar, and skolas etc etc.

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  • But if I want to kill a boss the way I want why is it their decision? I don't want to play a game the way someone wants me to I want to play it how I want (not cheat though that's stupid) but I I want to snipe something I will

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  • And you ''snipe something''. I don't know if your strawmanning or adresses a different point.

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