First off, i am not against atheism. That's not what this is about. But i'm not exactly for religion.
I recently read that the millennial generation is far more in support of atheism than past generations. Why do you think that is?
I mean look at what we are exposed to now-a-days when religion gets involved...
-people picketing funeral of fallen heroes because of who they loved in their life that was cut short (being gay)
-people protesting on a street corner yelling to passersby with a megaphone that "god hates you! You are all sinners and shall be damned to hell!"
-people banging on our door at 8:00am to force upon us their beliefs relentlessly and if you so much as show them kindness and let them say what they have to say then they repeatedly come back to your house again and again and again to force it upon you more
-we see whole disputes and even wars come from religion
Just about everything we see about religion today is negative. So it would only make sense that people having to grow up hearing and seeing all of this would despise religion and see it more as a brainwashing or a cult trying to force everyone to join it.
What do the rest of you think? This is simply me ranting, and i'm interested in seeing what others think on the state of religion today. So speak your mind, but please be courteous of other opinions.
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It seems that the biggest contributor to this decrease of religion is the Internet. It's almost unanimous that everyone agrees we simply have more access to information than ever before. It makes sense that the generations who had no access to question things would simply assume their religion has the answers, because that's how they were raised.
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For the same reason that "feminism" is on the rise. I'll let you do what you want with that ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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These type of threads make Offtopic a shitty place to be.
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2 Repliesit is interesting to see how the most advanced and prosperous countries are the ones that are the least religious. For example European countries.
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The media are more scientific therefore people will become more scientific. I mean, how regularly do you read or see anything about God or Jesus on TV, magazines or from Powerful people? Same applies with Christianity, it was weird not to be Christian over the last few centuries so everyone was Christian. All the Kings said be Christian, early newspapers mention God regularly and nobody really had hobbies so religion filled up spare time too.
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Because before, the church helped people find a reason to stay alive. In the Middle Ages peasants who were so poor and barely alive had no reason to live. Then the church comes along and says if you live and do good then you'll have a nice afterlife. And then takes all of their money. But now people are more educated and can question this.
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2 RepliesThe Spoiler below has a pretty lengthy view on religion. Anti-Religion, of course. It "sums" it up pretty well. So if you wanna read it, go for it. If you don't, more power to you. Remember first, [i]Love and Happiness before Fear and Misery[/i] [spoiler]Religion is designed to focus the people's attention and energy on a single, unchanging, uncompromising and invisible supreme being who allegedly created an inferior human race just for some extra companionship and love for himself and then supposedly foisted a set of oppressive and in some cases arbitrary rules on them, which if broken would be met with unimaginable punishment. This keeps the followers in a continuing state of fear and compliance. They are afraid to question the intentions of this invisible being and they are afraid of even expressing their own individuality in many cases. Christians and others are taught that they have virtually no power to do anything except pray, worship and do good deeds. They are taught to practice self denial and are told that their own will is totally irrelevant. Religious followers believe that they are yielding their will over to a benevolent cosmic individual who has single-handedly created the whole universe and has their best interests at heart when in fact they are handing over their will and freedoms to hidden groups of religious elites for the elites own personal gains. It appears that religion must constantly degrade and humiliate its followers in order to glorify and elevate its god. Unfortunately many people appear eager to give away their power to authority and seem to have a need and even a desire to be ruled and disciplined by it. Worshipping gods is futile and is nothing more than an ancient primitive custom practiced by weak minded and superstitious people. It has no place in the 21st century. The reason we have life in this world is to experience life in this world, not to spend our entire lives studying an old book, looking up to the sky and worshipping an invisible ruler in another realm. The main method by which Christians in particular are trapped and deceived is with the messiah or saviour story. This is linked to the 'original sin' story which is designed to impose a large amount of guilt onto the whole of humanity. The believers are then so grateful that they have been saved by the son of God nearly 2000 years before they were born that in some cases they abandon all reason, logic and good judgment to obey and worship this god and his son. Anyone who believes this story is indeed lost because to believe that a god would send his only son to help us, only to see his son get tortured and murdered, and then instead of unleashing all his wrath, simply absolve us from all crimes past and present, is pure madness to say the least. Where is the lesson for us in that? What has been achieved? There is no lesson or purpose because it's all about mass psychological enslavement and disempowerment. The so called god that we are expected to worship is undoubtedly just a dictator strawman concocted by the religious elites for the purpose of controlling the masses. If there is a prime creator in this universe then it is unlikely that he would interfere and impose on us by foisting his arbitrary laws, let alone need and demand our frivolous worship and blind obedience. Neither of those things requires any level of mental aptitude or creativity. The intelligence and skills that's been given to many has gone totally to waste. Many have lowered themselves to the pointless practice of hero worship. Furthermore, Christianity, Islam and a few other religions are polarized religions. They are polarized against each other. One is believed to be good and the other is seen as bad. The funny thing is, is that each one thinks that their's is good and the other's is bad. In most ways they're both bad. The only good kind of religion is a neutral and all loving one. Polarized religions have been devised by influential elite leaders to play the people off against each other. That way the elite can defeat and enslave the population practically without lifting a finger. Religion is like a drug to some. And they need a 2000 year old hero to save them - from themselves that is! The churches don't permit their followers to have any real truth and knowledge because that would empower the people too much so they spoon feed them kiddie stories, half truths, distortions and even lies and the followers value it highly even though they must spend the rest of their lives just making sense of it. The irony is that religion is pretty much man made, so mankind has really brought this onto themselves. The religious elites are not totally to blame because many people actually enjoy listening to mystical sounding stories, performing rituals, customs and traditions, playing polarity roles and dramas and waging battles against what they perceive to be a devil boogie man. They also have a secret fetish to be dominated and ruled with an iron fist by a supreme ruler or king. After all these centuries people still haven't learned to take back their power and start taking responsibility for themselves . [/spoiler]
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I grew up being a pastors kid forced to go to church three times a week and non stop just being force fed horse shit, when I was 14 my parents divorced and I got away from sociopath father and his ways. I started to really think for myself and study things and started putting the pieces together for myself and what I was told my whole life just made no sense at all. I'm 20 now and I just think it's absurd that all these people are still running around thumping bibles, it is 2015 look around you people! Look at the facts it's right in front of your face
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I would think simply an increase in awareness. It's significantly harder to be oblivious to reality these days xD
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2 RepliesIt's going big because more facts are being released and people are starting to understand things are getting better so we no longer have to pray to a god.
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1 Replytfw ur that one agnostic kid that no one gives a shit about
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[quote] It seems that the biggest contributor to this decrease of religion is the Internet. It's almost unanimous that everyone agrees we simply have more access to information than ever before. It makes sense that the generations who had no access to question things would simply assume their religion has the answers, because that's how they were raised.[/quote] Yup. Loving the butt hurt theist posts ^^ The truth hurts.
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Because population increases?
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Because science
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I don't give a shit
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No•-•
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3 RepliesBad religious b8 m8 ur gonna cre8 a lot of h8 gr8 m8. I will still r8 ur not gr8 b8 8/8 but ur gonna get h8 from all the gr8 m8s who like to r8 b8 with h8.
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Because people stop questioning things...
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Didn't god die in god of war 3 ?
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Edited by stidz: 4/7/2015 10:58:35 AMcan we plz stahp with these atheists and religion posts......go talk to people not on the internet and youll have a way better discussion/argument about this topic....you can only type so much....maybe you make a skype group session or some shit......i just wanna talk about waffles sometimes [spoiler]do you like carne asada?[/spoiler]
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11 RepliesThis is just a personal opinion and it can be debated. The intent is not to offend anyone but through my experience people tend to be atheist because it's easier to live to ones own moral compass than it is to live in accordance to morals built upon Gods expectations. Simply put when it comes down to almost all of life's decisions most people ( key here is most and again from my own experiences) will take the path of least resistance.
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Why waste my spare time praising something as silly as religion?
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1 ReplyEdited by Chaddercheese16: 4/7/2015 3:47:51 AMI have three reasons... well, kind of 2 1) science is simply explaining things very thoroughly and (seemingly) accurately. 2) The Internet, public education, etc. is giving people access to that information, not to mention forums, YouTube comment sections, and such where atheists can spread their 'beliefs.' 3) Most religious believers, especially Christians, don't practice what they preach. I've noticed that most people who call themselves Christians cuss, make sexual humor, lust, judge, etc. And obviously this is not how Christianity is supposed to be. [spoiler]I'm a Christian. I know that what I listed above is not always the case; that's just my opinion on the matter.[/spoiler] Edit: I just remembered another reason, and this is the one I'll probably get a lot of hate for: 4) People don't want to have to answer for what they've done, and even if you're a moral person, it's easier to not be required by a higher being to fulfill the moral goals you are given; you get into your own head and try to make yourself not believe something because it is simply easier to do for you.
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3 RepliesMost the atheist I meet are just àssholes who want to be right all the time. It's growing because people can't accept that they can be wrong at times.
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Why do you think Obama was elected
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Because it's easier and less time consuming to be a dedicated atheist in modern society than a dedicated religious person.
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2 RepliesIt's because old Christian conservatives are generally bad people and everyone's had enough of their shit. Also because religious indoctrination is slowing down. I wish I could live to see the day that Christianity is referred to as Christian mythology.