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Edited by KiIlworthy: 9/18/2014 3:44:31 PM
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NEW VIDEO!! DESTINY - Secrets of the Fallen (House of Winter's Future?)

We will take over the House of Winter

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They will dissapate

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Another Kell will step in

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Something else

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*Dissipate What will happen to the House of Winter now that their Kell has been killed?

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  • Edited by ShadowNinja77: 9/19/2014 6:50:34 PM
    Personally I hope we get to take it over however I sense we won't get to. But I would love to see us getting back friendly with Fallen or playing as them in a DLC as a 4th race. Before I get to the fallen I would like to include other things on this matter as I go. The Fallen have become increasingly odd - we have not seen this exact darkness a physical entity yet in Destiny unlike The Traveler, perhaps we will see it in the future but currently it would seem not. However The Hive clearly point out that the darkness is a physical entity as well as other sources such as Rasputin. Therefore that makes me wonder if the darkness was just a metaphor for a collection of enemies against humanity. Also we have now confirmed, lore that their were apparently other alien races beyond our solar system very oddly though the golden age so far to my knowledge says next to nothing about us exploring beyond our solar system. A very odd cutscene is when you 1st arrive on Venus your ghost briefly mentions Ishtar academy studied ruins older then humanity itself but that has yet to be elaborated on. I find it also odd during a venus mission, the archeive 1, the AI Lady briefly mentions something about studying Vex minds. Were Vex around pre-collapse if that is true that would support my theory that Vex are simply evil shodan styled exo's gone wrong that joined up with the darkness however still odd the AI lady would say that. The Stranger & the black heart in the garden suggest that The Vex are extremely evil, eviler then the hive perhaps which is also odd because I assumed the hive were by far the evilest since they were in direct contact with the darkness. The Vex currently are by far the weirdest of all the current enemies. The stranger also confirms more so that these groups don't particularly like each-other. The Fallen by far are the most possible nice guys around even though they are enemies at this time, they clearly show they can be willing to change. You see Fallen fighting both hive & vex - the only ones you don't see them fighting to my knowledge is the cabal. Which tells me that both The Fallen & Cabal are exactly what we thought they were for the most part, they either have a grudge against humanity &/or they simply favored the darkness more because they felt siding with it was a better bet. The Cabal seem more "dedicated" to this then The Fallen though. Fallen seem to be from our knowledge a once grand prideful race that is well cultured strong & acts by the wolf politics like you stated in your video. Apparently The Queen earned her place with The Fallen & quite honestly that makes The Queen increasingly interesting as she is the 1st to our understanding to make Fallen in someway be nice towards our side. From this I assume more now that The Fallen were at 1 point friendly with humans as a different alien species. But because they fell apart during The Collapse they hold a grudge against they're former friends for failing to help them & as such most Fallen don't want to befriend our side but if we prove ourselves they won't totally throw out the possibility of getting along again. I did not say friendly to Awoken &/or Exo's because it was pre-collapse & we know Awoken are basically humans born from dark & light also The Exo's are still a big freaking mystery for the most part, their are suggestions they were born both pre-collapse &/or during the collapse still.... Anyway great work so far killworthy.

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    • The House of Winter tried to revive an Archon Priest from the Prison Elders to serve as their leader. Their obviously searching for a new leader for their House. Perhaps the House of Winter and House of Wolves will unite and attempt to launch a Coup against the Awoken Queen, then revive a super powerful Archon in he Prison of Elders to serve as their Kell which will be the boss for the House of Wolves Raid.

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    • the house of kings? can't remember what it is called will flock too the tower too join, what the kells respect is power and we will display ours in march :)

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      • If you remember when the queen says she expexcts a favor for giving you the coordinates to the black garden now she needs you, she gets betrayed by the house of wolves and now you have to help the queen

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      • Edited by Some Black Guy: 1/10/2015 9:27:19 PM
        That would be cool, to fight house versus house. However, Bungie isn't going to do anything like that lol they just care about our money.

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      • Another kell will step in. Bigger than drakesis. That will probably be the raid, some prevent the ceremony thing, and 'oh no we were too late'

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      • I think it would be cool if we took over.[spoiler]However bungie doesnt do cool stuff anymore. Or even bother to put a story in their game[/spoiler]

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      • Edited by bananamansam123: 10/18/2014 2:27:09 AM
        Most people are saying that the Queen will assume control of the house of winter. If this happens, this would obviously tie into the future queen-related DLC as set up by the "You owe us" scene in-game. What I think might happen is the queen wants to take control of the house of winter, but since you are now the "alpha wolf", she has to go through you first. If this is to be the case, we might get to make the decision to either hand over the house ("You owe us") OR refuse her request and go to war with the House of Wolves, fighting alongside your House of Winter, maybe throwing in some RTS or TD in there as well. Whatever happens, this is going to lead to some really cool story

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        • I could tell you. >.>

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        • The house of wolves will overtake the house of winter.

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        • House of wolves will step in for the kell

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        • Winter is Coming!!!

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        • Maybe the Queen will assimilate it into her House. Or, since they usually go to war with each other, it'll probably be wiped out. The Fallen in it will either be destroyed or will join other Houses, perhaps the House of Exile.

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        • Your play style looks like you are using a keyboard and mouse

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        • I honestly think that the Queen or the Reef will take over as Kell of the House of Winter. She already leads the Reef and the House of Wolves... So it would be interesting to see her army grow.

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          • Edited by JOSH55886: 9/23/2014 3:55:56 AM
            I didn't think of that. The first Expansion is The Dark Below. We already know it's about the moon. More than likely finishing up the Crota storyline. Since, there is a Raid called "Crota's End". The second expansion is House Of Wolves. So it will obviously have something to do with the Queen. Maybe she'll ask us to let her absorb members of The House Of Winter into The House Of Wolves.

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          • I bet Bungie's saving it for the House of Winter Raid.

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          • I feel another Kell is most likely to set in, I mean, what good is a hierarchy if there is no chain of command replacements for stuff like this?

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            • I recall in what your ghost said that the house will fight within it self my guess is it will either dissipate or a new leader will step in, most likely after 55-60% of the clan is dead due to in house fighting

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            • I'm very interested in how the story will continue, and I think the fallen may help us in some way. I also think he Fallen are the least irredeemely evil of all enemy races. The hive is a undead horde that wants to destroy all light, the vex want to turn every planet into giant machines and the cabal are an unstoppable force of destruction that will 'destroy a mountain just for standing in their way'. The fallen seem to be the underdogs of the darkness, living in the ruins of human civilization and being more divided than any ohter race. They are raiders and pirates and seem to be a lot like the awoken, the remnants of a once great race touched by the darkness an fallen to it. On a different note, I suspect that there will be a civil war between the awoken (the queen against her brother). They are siblings but the queen is deffinitly more powerfull.

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              • I have to say, your analysis rang true to me. From the get-go, I saw the Fallen as fierce enemies similar to Halo's Sangheili ("Elites"), and—wouldn't you know it—we not only fought WITH them at the end, but AS an Elite in the Arbiter in Halo 3. Was I reading that parallel into the game, or was I picking up on a vibe that Bungie wanted to imply? Dunno, time will tell. But what IS telling is that the Queen has Fallen with her at all. The very fact that Bungie included them so obviously in one Reef cutscene tells me that you're at least asking the right question—what befalls the House of Winter?—as well as adds credence to your idea that Guardians will be allied with them at some point. Another option (or one that could follow your proposal), given the various houses' infighting, is that some Fallen leader grows tired of houses divided, some even being led by non-Fallen, and leads a war to unify them all under one banner. At this point I'm not sure if Bungie would have us fighting against such a unification, or perhaps supporting it as an ally against the "vast empire" of the Cabal (which seems to have had too small of an influence so far) and the sheer evil of the The Hive and Vex.

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