wondering to find out if Bungie is planning to release some new armor anytime (chest plates, shoulder pads, helmets.) i dont mean recon that has to be earned, but something like a bundle pack of some sort that you could purchase off of the xbox marketplace. a response would make my year so please and thank you. BlunterLotus [Edited on 06.21.2008 12:02 AM PDT]

Woah! A Flood Tank form inside Chill Out?! Great!

This was the guy at the end who said he quit halo, he still played today. [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/PlayerStatsHalo3.aspx?player=TTU%20VAPOR[/url] Just goes to show, its so hard to quit. It's just such an awesome game.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BerserkerBarage Oh, and Hitzel. Give it up. You've been hanging onto that quote for years and you still don't get it. He don't work for Bungie anymore. His impressions of the M6D are pointless to this conversation. Several CURRENT Bungie employees have said countless times that the M6D was a broken, unbalanced weapon. They said the same for the H2 BR (even though it was slightly better than the M6D) If you haven't notice Bungie has gone to the development point where all weapons have a role instead of 1 weapon filling all roles. This changes gameplay drastically because the player is required to makes choices about what weapons they want to carry in order to accomplish their goal. In HCE all I needed was the M6D because it was the one weapon to rule them all. If someone had a shotty/rockets was my only concern. And if I thought they did all I had to do was stay slightly outside of their kill range while taking them out with my howitzer hand-cannon.[/quote]I hold onto it because it's true, and because some people ride the Bungie bandwagon too much to listen to anything besides Bungie. Glad you noticed =) I figured John didn't work for Bungie anymore when he was the lead dev for FASA, but thanks for confirming that for me. I'll say this straight up, if you claim all you used in H1 was the Pistol you are either 1) lieing, or 2) playing horrible players, because the Pistol isn't what it's cracked up to be. Like I said already, the Pistol gets dominated by the other weapons when used for their specific jobs. The only exception to that is the Needler, and that's the game's humiliation kill weapon. To keep it simple, vs Pistol: *Shotty and AR are better at close range. *PP and PR are better for flanking / teamshooting and vs OS. *Sniper is better at long range. *Rocket is the game's power weapon. *Pistol isn't useful against OS. *No quick-camo with Pistol, so you drop your Pistol and keep AR for camo+snipe or camo+rockets. *Pistol is always best at mid-range *Needler is... lol. And for the heck of it: *Grenades are anti-camp, Pistol isn't. *Pistol has slow melee, AR is better for double melees. So going back to my original point, the Pistol was useful all-around, but everything beats the Pistol at it's intended job. Because of that, you need to pick your weapons intelligently and know when and how to use them. Another thing to note is that EVERYTHING except for the needler is more powerful in Halo 1 than it is in 2 and 3 (except the PP in Halo 2). Yes, the Pistol was a 3sk , but don't forget that everything else was lethal back then too. Also don't forget that a 3sk was actually uncommon because of it's difficulty to execute. Watch pro gameplays. 3sk's were a rarity and always exciting to see because they didn't happen often. [Edited on 06.20.2008 11:33 PM PDT]

That burn on Dan in this week's edition of the Waaaaaaaaaahmbulance was excellent. Thank you.

new maps??? does this mean that Legendary map pack is going to be free on its release date?? DAMN YOU BUNGIE!!!! YOU MADE ME SPEND $13 ON THE LEGENDARY MAP PACK!!!! seriously though, the map looks awesome, time to buy more Microsoft points lol

Chill Out was so fun! I'm so glad Bungie's making a remake! I'm just wondering what the name of the map pack that it's going to be in will be.

wait...7/7 new mappps? they said 17 days away give us another hint!!

Check it out dawgs! I made a Walkthrough video of Cold Storage dawgs! [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UReUt9v_2Lc[/url] Let me know what you think dawgs!

What's funny is that isn't the worst post I've ever seen from DanBauer. Which is pretty pathetic at the same time. My personal favorite was when he was critical of the H3 BR and AR before he had even played the game. His sole reason for saying they didn't work? MLG said so! He even made a whole thread about how the AR/BRs were broken because people at MLG said it was. Way to think for yourself. Oh, and Hitzel. Give it up. You've been hanging onto that quote for years and you still don't get it. He don't work for Bungie anymore. His impressions of the M6D are pointless to this conversation. Several CURRENT Bungie employees have said countless times that the M6D was a broken, unbalanced weapon. They said the same for the H2 BR (even though it was slightly better than the M6D) If you haven't notice Bungie has gone to the development point where all weapons have a role instead of 1 weapon filling all roles. This changes gameplay drastically because the player is required to makes choices about what weapons they want to carry in order to accomplish their goal. In HCE all I needed was the M6D because it was the one weapon to rule them all. If someone had a shotty/rockets was my only concern. And if I thought they did all I had to do was stay slightly outside of their kill range while taking them out with my howitzer hand-cannon. More on topic of the WWUD is that I love the H3 BR. I feel that it's still awfully powerful but at the same time isn't ludicrously powerful like M6D or H2 BR were. I've always understood that the spread was to limit the range of the BR in order for it to fill the role as a sniper distraction at long-range while being dominant in medium range. It now definitely has more of a defined role compared to the H2 iteration. Oh, and I thought that Bungie said that they were against using teleporters. Something about moving a distance without any "cost". Which is why they talked about instituting the man-cannons. Well, since Bungie obviously doesn't mind using a couple of teleporters...can we get Boarding Action? Hell, even with man-cannons shooting players back and forth would be awesome even if you didn't want to go the teleporter route. ~B.B.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hitzel [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tahbig L Thank you for posting the detailed mechanics of the BR. I have been wanting to get my hands on those details for a while now. The amount of BR bashing threads should significantly decrease now that a quality explanation has been given. If only everyone had a T3 internet connection, then some of these networking issues wouldn't be such problems.[/quote]IMO, the BR is still inconsistent and frustrating to use. Knowing why doesn't stop it from being inconsistent and frustrating to use. In fact, knowing it's random by design makes it worse because now I can blame nothing but the game when I get unfairly out-BR'd.[/quote]Please, stop complaining about a weapon. People keep dying by my BR, that's all that matters. I can't believe how it can be frustrating to use, maybe frustrating to die by it for the 100th time.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hitzel [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tahbig L Thank you for posting the detailed mechanics of the BR. I have been wanting to get my hands on those details for a while now. The amount of BR bashing threads should significantly decrease now that a quality explanation has been given. If only everyone had a T3 internet connection, then some of these networking issues wouldn't be such problems.[/quote]IMO, the BR is still inconsistent and frustrating to use. Knowing why doesn't stop it from being inconsistent and frustrating to use. In fact, knowing it's random by design makes it worse because now I can blame nothing but the game when I get unfairly out-BR'd.[/quote]Dude, use your head. The physics make more sense that way. In Halo 2 if you were hit by the first bullet, you were automatically hit by all three. It doesn't make sense for bullets to chase each other around corners, that's why they made it that way for Halo 3, and the fact that you have to aim ahead of your targets also makes more sense and it means that you need to apply more skill to using the weapon. Trust me, the BR really isn't that hard to use. If you're having trouble, you obviously need to practice more, and this is coming from someone who barely plays the game anymore, so you should probably step up your game.

Oh come on...Why is it that Bungie can no longer come up with anything original anymore? I can't believe that they're still remaking maps. I figured that after the new sidewinder map that they would be done with the remakes, but now they've done it again! Don't get me wrong, I love the remakes they've come out with, but why keep making them? Chill out wasn't even that great of a map. It looks good so far, but seriously bungie, don't be sellouts like hollywood. Stop making remakes and sequels and come up with something original for once because right now it seems like you guys are losing your touch.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tahbig L Thank you for posting the detailed mechanics of the BR. I have been wanting to get my hands on those details for a while now. The amount of BR bashing threads should significantly decrease now that a quality explanation has been given. If only everyone had a T3 internet connection, then some of these networking issues wouldn't be such problems.[/quote]IMO, the BR is still inconsistent and frustrating to use. Knowing why doesn't stop it from being inconsistent and frustrating to use. In fact, knowing it's random by design makes it worse because now I can blame nothing but the game when I get unfairly out-BR'd.

Imagine a game of basketball during which every time you shoot the ball the hoop moves one inch in a random direction. Would that change the outcome of a 1v1 between you and Kobe Bryant, no. Would it change the outcome between Kobe versus himself (an equal match-up), yes, it would randomize the outcome. Now, I dont want to rant on how Bungie should change Halo 3 and make it a viable competitive title, I know it cannot be changed and will not be changed. I just want to shed light on the sad reality that video games (along with much of society) are being dumbed down in favor of casual play with no outlet for someone who enjoys true competition. P.S. Luke you didnt censor Dan91's post in any way. What he posted was ridiculous (ly funny) in its own way, yet crucifying it here was just cruel.

Why are all the kids a support bungie a grade 2 in something. Luke you should really ask some kids at are someone good at the game about the br not kids who suck

it is no longer a mid-to-long range killing machine. It is an anti-long range weapon with a focus on mid-range combat that ends up being utilitarian and functional, but not optimal at close range Thats the best thing in there what a joke why the hell would you want that. making the Br worse isnt going to bring more people it is gonna make less people come. in 4 years of halo 2 there was about 60,000 online. In about 1 year when gow 2 comes out there will be 60,000 kids on halo 3.

Thank you for posting the detailed mechanics of the BR. I have been wanting to get my hands on those details for a while now. I don't quite know what to think though. I feel like the margin of error is kind of large but... you guys did make it that for a reason. There are a million other things I could say but they wouldn't be thought out. All I can say is that I wish I could hold a conversation directly with a Bungie employee just to throw some ideas around. If only everyone had a T3 internet connection, then some of these networking issues wouldn't be such problems. [Edited on 06.20.2008 11:10 PM PDT]

HEY LUKE ANSWER WHY ON THE DUMB LIKE TIP THINGS IN MM LOBBY DOES IT SAY LONG RANGE WEAPON THEN SAY LIKE THE BATTLE RIFLE IF IT ISNT A LONG RANGE WEAPON LIKE IN UR UPDATE HEY LUKE WANNA ANSWER?

fix the br fix the damge and the walking speed, increase it make it harder to level up take off restrictions bring out good maps there you go h3 fixed

i have a feeling this map is going to suck along with the rest of the remakes and h3 itself

...... NEW MAPS!!!! NEW MAPS!!!! NEW MAPS!!!! NEW MAPS!!!!

Are those Blue Teleporters?!?!?!?

People complain regularly about the BR and some even have suggestions to improve it. Of course game developers are the only people with proper merit to discuss what effect BR changes would have on the game. I think the BR discussion cosely resembles the melee one. A percentage of the community felt like the melee needed polish and Bungie tweaked them.

I wonder what the forge pallet will have in Cold Storage. Maybe instead of wire spools there are giant test tubes with stuff in them. Possibly some placeable flood objects? I do think this might be the first, tight spaced, fully indoor map for halo 3 so i'm unsure how "forgeable" it will be. ***Just noticed something! if you look in the 2nd picture of Cold Storage at the right side, you will see a window that seems to show the blue pillars that are inside the bases in avalanche. Could we have 2 maps that are somewhat connected environmentally. It would make sense as Avalanche takes place on a frozen forerunner instillation and the new maps name is Cold Storage which seems to take place in a cold forerunner instillation. Any ideas people? [Edited on 06.20.2008 9:28 PM PDT]

Hitzel, the mindset you mentioned in your second paragraph is the number one reason why I find Halo 3 to be so aggravating. Anyway, when I think about the idea you mentioned in the second half of your post I would have to say that both Halo 1 and Halo 2 follow that idea, Halo 1 with the pistol and Halo 2 with the BR. And it's an awesome idea.