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Bungie Weekly Update: 6/20/08
The first ever Weekly Update to feature trigonometric functions. It's like summer school!
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Re: the weekly update. The in depth look at the Br with functions and purpose was very well done. I think that it’s balance with other weapons in the game are just about right. I do not have any problems with the spread of bullets, or the fact that you have to lead your shoots, or slightly less auto- aim. The H3 BR takes more skill to use then the H2 BR, b/c of these 3 things. I think that these 3 things is why there is more skill in H3 as a whole. However, the skill level in short range combat is lacking, and furthermore—not interesting. Some things that I think that could improve game play, and make it more fun are the following. -much less auto- aim in melees, and different melee damage due to player speed and/ or jumping. -Slightly faster reloads and weapon switching. I’m sure you guys have considered the following, and have your reasons for not changing or tweaking them. I understand that any game is delicate balance between fun and completive. As for what I would like to see in the future in H3 are more maps, suited for 4v4 and 2v2, that play fast. Cold Storage looks amazing, and one of my friends was at SD and said that it’s nothing short of impressive. Anyways I would like to thank you guys for all your hard work with the game, and understand that maybe changing in game mechanics isn’t realistic. But one thing I know you could do is — give us a new forge canvas with alien objects, and lots of them
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I am not feeling that remake of Chill Out. I am ready for new maps, made from scratch. no more remakes, EXCEPT if it is coagulation. why hasnt bungie remade that one yet anyways, that was a top favorite in halo2. I would like to see bungie put there creative hats back on and start making brand new, exciting maps.
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I just bought Black out and the others a week ago, and now theres more maps coming out again? gotta love Bungie. :D
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"Little ditty, 'bout Jack and Diane. Two American kids growin' up, in the heartland. Jack he's gonna be, a , football star, Diane debutante, back seat of Jackie's car." -42
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ShadowMac I have to say one of my favorite things about halo 3 is that one weapon doesnt always dominate every potential situation. Sometimes there is a way to get a guy with a "better" weapon, usually by attacking the other player when they are not at the most effective range for their weapon. I've even noticed that dual maulers will beat a shotgun if you are just a little out of the shotguns optimum range because they fire faster. Its nice to know that if you are running around with an AR and the other guy has a BR; all you have to do is get close enough to beat him out, be sneaky and be smart. For those that dont get it, i'm sure it could be frustrating running straight at 'em guns blazing and dieing before you even see a flicker in their shield. Some people need to quit crying, quit playing, or just play team rockets. Halo 3 is the best online multiplayer shooter out there. Bungie rocks! Peace, Im out![/quote] Your wrong dude, one weapon can dominate a potential situation. take epitaph in team doubles as example. one team has a rocket launcher and a shotgun, the other team has little chance of getting kills. you could stick the other team but if the other team is good enough to get both power weapons then they are good enough to avoid getting stuck. You can be sneaky but if since crouch walking takes a while and if you wait too long to attack the other team will know you are planning on sneaking up so they will be alert and waiting for it. another example would be HC snowbound (bungies favorite gametype in doubles). one team gets the sniper and mauler and all the other team could have would be a brute shot, needler, carbine, a BR, stickies, plasma rifles and spikers. if the other teams stays down below with snipes and mauler your BR or AR start would be in effective to counter the sniper and mauler and stickies would eliminate one player but not the team.
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The update for this week was cool, but I would have liked a little more for Cold Storage. Oh well, I'll just check it out on Halo CE.
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I really enjoyed the write up on the BR. Although I mostly always thought the BR in H3 was awesome, this really helped me understand *why* the BR feels so different than H2. H2 always felt more like an "arcade shooter" to me... just kind of a point and click application using the BR... and while I loved it and still hold a special place in my heart... I'm gonna have to say that H3 and the H3 BR perform sooooo much better. Also, that's really exciting how you unveiled Chill Out at MLG... and I'm totally down for more old classic maps to be re-invented... However... I'd still like to see some NEW maps that rival the old maps. I think the maps that shipped with H3 are amazing... but so far NONE of the new maps (remakes included) have lived up to anything that shipped with H3 or the entire H2 collection.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mastercheif 22 Boo hoo. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrankyApleJuice Well at least that upset kid was right about one thing. Halo 3 is a P.O.S. [/quote][/quote] Nice reply. Takes a lot of brainpower for that one, eh? You and Luke could get along well.
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Boo hoo. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrankyApleJuice Well at least that upset kid was right about one thing. Halo 3 is a P.O.S. [/quote]
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Casual gaming is a problem? wow, some of us have other things to do, like maybe a real basketball game or work, and dont have time to invest countless hours into a game so we can print out our stats, go to the club, and try to pick up chicks with our K/D ratio. I think games have gone too far towards the hard core gamers. In COD4, i felt like i was running around with a stick and a rock while other players had every damn gadget and perk in the game, crushing all us "casual gaming" fools with their carpal tunnel hands and atrophied manhood. Halo 3 is great for casual players and hardcore players. Good players dominate via SKILL, map control, and teamwork. Casual gamers can pick it up and have a good time because they arent thrown in with players who have a competitive advantage such as better starting weapons or perks improving character performance in the game. What if you played basketball against Kobe and had super jumping shoes and lightening dribble gloves from the hours you spent shooting freethrows at the local Y on another lonely Saturday night? Is the game being decided by skill still? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Uno Imagine a game of basketball during which every time you shoot the ball the hoop moves one inch in a random direction. Would that change the outcome of a 1v1 between you and Kobe Bryant, no. Would it change the outcome between Kobe versus himself (an equal match-up), yes, it would randomize the outcome. Now, I dont want to rant on how Bungie should change Halo 3 and make it a viable competitive title, I know it cannot be changed and will not be changed. I just want to shed light on the sad reality that video games (along with much of society) are being dumbed down in favor of casual play with no outlet for someone who enjoys true competition. P.S. Luke you didnt censor Dan91's post in any way. What he posted was ridiculous (ly funny) in its own way, yet crucifying it here was just cruel.[/quote]
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I have to say one of my favorite things about halo 3 is that one weapon doesnt always dominate every potential situation. Sometimes there is a way to get a guy with a "better" weapon, usually by attacking the other player when they are not at the most effective range for their weapon. I've even noticed that dual maulers will beat a shotgun if you are just a little out of the shotguns optimum range because they fire faster. Its nice to know that if you are running around with an AR and the other guy has a BR; all you have to do is get close enough to beat him out, be sneaky and be smart. For those that dont get it, i'm sure it could be frustrating running straight at 'em guns blazing and dieing before you even see a flicker in their shield. Some people need to quit crying, quit playing, or just play team rockets. Halo 3 is the best online multiplayer shooter out there. Bungie rocks! Peace, Im out!
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Wow Lukems, you are the nastiest person I've ever met in my entire life. You have no right to single someone out and you don't deserve your job. You should be ashamed at your actions, Frankie would've never done anything like this. You are a poor excuse for a human being. Good day sir. Hmm, wonder why I even bothered to post this, I'll just end up banned and backlisted. [Edited on 06.21.2008 2:58 PM PDT]
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Imagine a game of basketball during which every time you shoot the ball the hoop moves one inch in a random direction. Would that change the outcome of a 1v1 between you and Kobe Bryant, no. Would it change the outcome between Kobe versus himself (an equal match-up), yes, it would randomize the outcome. Now, I dont want to rant on how Bungie should change Halo 3 and make it a viable competitive title, I know it cannot be changed and will not be changed. I just want to shed light on the sad reality that video games (along with much of society) are being dumbed down in favor of casual play with no outlet for someone who enjoys true competition. P.S. Luke you didnt censor Dan91's post in any way. What he posted was ridiculous (ly funny) in its own way, yet crucifying it here was just cruel.
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Well at least that upset kid was right about one thing. Halo 3 is a P.O.S.
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nice bungie rofl call the whambulance lol sad another player cracked from ( dun dun dun dunnnn) RECON ARMOR ( dunnnnnnnn)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SS64 Why dont you put a poll up to see what game would win Halo 2 or Halo 3. The gameplay in Halo 2 was a hell of a lot better then Halo 3, Halo 2 was a fast, fun and smooth game to play. Halo will never be the same because of game designs making the game easier for noobs to play, and i think will get even more bad on each game, because the companys see where the money is. All people want for Halo is Halo 2 + not Halo 3 with a lot of stuff taken out and a -blam!- Sniper and BR. You could compare CSS to H2 before but now you cant see nothing. Plus bring back the big xbox controllers they rule. [/quote] Wow, I don't even know what to say... Wait a second, yeah I do. You speaking for everyone by saying what "people want for Halo" amuses me to no end. Did you take a nationwide survey or are you just so arrogant and ignorant that you think your own opinions speak for the entire community? Truthfully, the only reliable data available that shows which game people think is "better" is the number of people playing each game online every day... and I believe Halo 3 wins that by a huge margin with something on the order of 50 times as many players as Halo 2. By all means, lets have your little poll and see how it turns out. As many have said before, if you don't like Halo 3, go play Halo 2 and stop cluttering the forums with your poorly thought-out complaints.
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Wow that just looks amazing! I thought that was concept art untill I loked at it a second time. Ihated the halo1 chill out but looks like I may like this version. Oh and thats cool with the flood specimen In that crypod thing
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It just annoys me the system still revolves around the host xbox applying damage. The client should determine whether or not it has applied damage. So rather than Client saying "I fired here, did I hit anyone?" It says "I hit this dude, here, kill him." PS, why did you explain it using degrees not radians? Weapons are given two values, a minimum deviation and a max deviation, it will randomly fire the bullet between those two numbers, so the minimum for most weapons will be 0 and the max a degree at max. set the two values to the same and your bullets will appear to come out in a perfect circle around your barrel. [Edited on 06.21.2008 1:29 PM PDT]
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I miss the all powerfulness of the Halo 2 BR. The first time I ever picked up a BR in Halo 3 I could tell something was different, the way it fired, the way it hit targets. The only thing I don't like is that it [i]seems[/i] inconsistent. It's not uncommon for me to shoot someone once in the head in SWAT and get a kill, but then have it take more than 3 to kill the next guy. Because of this I have a custom game with extra damage where I vent my rage by BRing people to death.
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Sweet screenshots. I like the incorporation of this kind of facility into multiplayer... a Forerunner lab for researching the Flood. The pureform in the glass tube looks positively badass... it reminds me of the old shotgun hallway on Lockout. Btw, is that 343 GS I spy on the ceiling in the 2nd shot?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] YKantBobReed Am I just a doof, or was there no reply button here for a while?[/quote] Nope Lukems locked it (Thank you Luke) anyways nice psot I didn't get to reply earlier because of the lock though. Thank you for the Br input.
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I may seem like a jerk for saying this, but my favourite part was the DanBauer part. Yeah, that's right :S!
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love the look of the new map, the thing on the ceiling, the eye like thing looks like some kind of AI monitoring the facility, looks very cool, the interior looks quite different to what we’ve scene in forerunner architecture in halo 3 in terms of art direction, very sterile looking reminds me of some of the interior spaces were the flood were held in that forerunner station on the arbiter mission in halo 2, I love the specimen tube containing the pure form to, that’s such a cool touch, looks awesome [Edited on 06.21.2008 1:00 PM PDT]
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Why dont you put a poll up to see what game would win Halo 2 or Halo 3. The gameplay in Halo 2 was a hell of a lot better then Halo 3, Halo 2 was a fast, fun and smooth game to play. Halo will never be the same because of game designs making the game easier for noobs to play, and i think will get even more bad on each game, because the companys see where the money is. All people want for Halo is Halo 2 + not Halo 3 with a lot of stuff taken out and a -blam!- Sniper and BR. You could compare CSS to H2 before but now you cant see nothing. Plus bring back the big xbox controllers they rule.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CanadianMooser [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Middle Finger U I think it's a tad f'd up you guys did that Whambulance thing and had the guy's name out to the public. Usually it's an anonymous thing. You guys even screeshotted his signature which had his gamertag and everything. It's just a tad f'd up..[/quote]I agree.[/quote] why? because it messed up the anonymity of acting like an ass on the internet? [Edited on 06.21.2008 12:34 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Middle Finger U I think it's a tad f'd up you guys did that Whambulance thing and had the guy's name out to the public. Usually it's an anonymous thing. You guys even screeshotted his signature which had his gamertag and everything. It's just a tad f'd up..[/quote]I agree.
