In terms of biggest of those enemies, Fallen have Devil Walkers, Hive have Crota, Cabal have huge tanks, and Vex have Atheon. So it's pretty evenly matched in my opinion.
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Expect two the vex can wipe out the the cabal, fallen and hive.
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Okay, you made a point, now explain it.
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The vex can travel through time. The vex that are coming are from the future. What's stopping them going back in time and wiping out the cabal, hive and fallen home world ? The vault of glass. Shows their true power, and I'm sure there's more than one. vault. Athon alone would crush a devil walker and the cabal tanks.
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Are you sure about that because we crushed him pretty easy
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Yeah, but we can always try to test this.
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The vex transform planets and the cabal destroy planets. I think the weaponry to do that has to be pretty bad ass
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True.
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Just my opinion but it seems that the vex have to transform a planet to be able to time travel there. If that is the case then the cabal can destroy that planet before it is done.
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The vex can travel back in time all they want the cabal will always wipe them out
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And as for the tanks, The Devil Walkers main cannon can kill us in one single shot, along with the cabal tanks. Atheon's void cannon takes at least 7 shots to kill us.
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Athon is a god of time. He can just send them to the stone age and they would be useless.
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Then how does he die by the likes of 6 guardians with a shield and rockets and snipers and HMG?? Your arguments are flawed in logic.
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How ? Become bungie wants people to feel like badasses. That's how. Athon was only the beginning.
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That's not relevant at all. Bungie created all of this, they didn't have a small part in the lore behind Atheon, they created the whole damn thing itself, they included logic in their lore-making decisions. Atheon can be defeated because he can't control time. They may have been able to in the past, but that power is no more with them.
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Edited by Ghost593835: 1/3/2015 10:13:58 PMHe could put you into the past. That's time powers. They made it so athon wasn't a power house. Also if he could not control time why was he created ?
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If they can truly travel through time, then why didn't they wipe out human kind before our population exploded with people? If they truly could travel through time, then there wouldn't be any fight. But that also depends on their time travel timeline. Whether it is a fixed timeline, a dynamic timeline, or a multiverse.
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You see they already have but the traveler is what keeping the humans safe. It's power can keep the past if humanity from the vex. In another time line humanity is dead and gone. But not this time line.
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If we are going into parallel universes, then obviously the vex will win in one of them. Just like in another parallel universe the traveller turns into a transformer and kills all minions of darkness. That's the thing about parallel universes, they are infinite, and are all different from one another.
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Indeed the vex are the strongest with the hive being the weakness
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The hive aren't the vex's weakness. Vex have void shields that the hive don't have the power to diminish. To make this debate challenging, you need to take all factors into account such as the weapons they use and the element on them, the shields' element their majors and ultras use, their size, the damage they put out, etc.
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I can burn the hive away. With fire. They we weak against fire. The vex are smarter than the hive. They would wipe out the hive. With their time powers and weapons.
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That's exactly what I'm saying. You just disproved yourself. You said the hive was the vex's weakness, now you're saying they aren't. Take a second to gather your thoughts before you type.
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Lol I meant the hive are the weakest
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Not with a god on their side. Crota. And they have Phogoth the huge, mutated ogre.
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All killed by the guardians.