A lot of people at the end of the day just want to sample "The End Game" and some feel nervous having another 5 people depend on them, so maybe they have ran the Vault a handful of times, I would say once you have ran it at least 10 times you get the hang of it it’s not exactly complicated stuff. But they obviously have some of the basics and probably took 20mins to find your group and fear being booted and just want another carry. Avoiding the relic etc though will never make you any better at it – that’s why for a few runs force (used loosely) a new person to have a go with it and no pressure, once they done it one run they’ll forever know how to run the relic it as like I say its not actually complicated, makes me laugh when people say they are brilliant with the relic…..the equivalent of saying you great at walking......*rolls eyes*
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idk 10 times is the max for learning it - im at like 8 or something and Im pretty good - mind you i havent done hard mode yet (could never get to 30 before, stupid rng - had 5 gauntlets lol) - but yeah, if you have 10 completions under your belt then i would def say you know what you are doing
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This guy said he was Jesus with the relic... I learned so much from him