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Edited by Classy Snowman: 12/22/2014 6:38:54 PM
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Please Don't Lie (Small Edit)

Please. You guys and gals know what I'm talking about? When you load up the VOG and see a group full of 30s and 31s. You go to inspect their armor, and most of it is Vanguard Light 33. "Have you done/beaten the hard raid before?" "Yeah all the time!" *[b]15 minutes later[/b]* "How do we kill the Templar?" "What's a gorgon?" "What side is Venus?" "There's a Conflux at Gatekeeper?!" "Wait, those Harpies explode?" "Why am I detained?!" And my favorite: "There's no revives on hard?" People. Please be honest. Personally, I [i]love[/i] explaining the mechanics of the VOG to new people. I love helping VOG virgins through it for the first time. It's awesome. But please don't lie about it. If you say you know what you're doing, we won't explain it because we assume you've done it. Now, what happens if you say you've never done it and get kicked from a group? Well that's a good thing. Because those people have no tolerance and patience (and time). You don't want to raid with people like that. You want a group that is forgiving, loose, chill, and can help others. I love helping people. But please, don't lie. It makes it easier on everybody. EDIT: Wow love the feedback! One thing I keep seeing over and over is asking me for my help. I'd love to(: My Gamertag is: Classy Snowman I play on the 360! Feel free to ask!
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  • I'm 30, I'll run Crota's End or VoG. I'll say I'm a real noob when it comes with raids, but I know the general idea - may need some explaining though Teammates - Alright *explains and is really patient* Love this.

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  • This. All of this! It's because of helpful people like you that people like me are able to go further in to the destiny experience because you take the time to help and explain. Thank you and on behalf of those too proud or high horse Thank you.

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  • I could use some raid help. Yes I am a noob but I'm a pretty good gamer and I can hold my own. Granted a person is gonna need help in the raid but that's part of team work.

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  • I've beaten raid got the gear and now that the vanguard gear is 33 light i dismantled the raid gear i now have the new raid helm and arms hoping I get the chest and legs this week

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  • Please bump this. It's so frustrating when you put trust in people and that's how they repay you.

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  • I agree, I don't mind dragging new comers through it, but when someone lies it's annoying.

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  • Great post and points Some people are still awful no matter how many times it's been done or explained right in front of them. There's no patience and time for them.

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  • This.

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  • Ha, that happened to me the other day. Bounced out to destinglfg, found a group, got in, and tried it "their way" with the Templar. After 4 team-wipes, it became apparent that they had read up on this, but not really tried it before. I talked them through it (and the next few parts), and we got Atheon about 35 minutes later.

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  • It's happening more and more. I have no problem helping people, but just tell someone before you start. I get more annoyed when we've started and then someone comes clean about it. We all have to start some where and people helped me, but just tell people before you start or shortly after. Was doing the raid with 3 randoms that knew each other, after about the 7th or 8th wipe with Atheon, one of them said, I htink the problem is we don't know what side is Mars and Venus. What? There was other stuff too, but tell us maybe the 1st or 2nd wipe or before we start

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  • Good post. I know your post relates to Hard but It has made me want to go back and play VOG (normal) as I only completed it twice as I didn't really have time. The very first time I completed VOG, I wasn't asked straight away if I was a newbie so I didn't tell, and I came unstuck when I failed at what I've heard is the easiest part of vog, the jumps. They knew then that I was an amateur and were very cool about it and guided me through it. After they just told me what to do for the remaining sections and it was a great experience, especially as I got VOC, Corrective Measure and Found Verdict from it. I totally agree with being honest as it helps the player in the long run. Appreciate the post. Thank you.

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    • I have done VoG hard a few times but i still don't know which side is venus or mars so i just look at my radar.

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      • As I read these posts Its crazy to think that this game has been out for three months and not many people know how to navigate through this raid...What gave you been playing thus far?Not this game..smh

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        • I'll usually help new raiders unless I'm short on time. Add me on XB1 GT same as forum.....BUT don't just send me a game invite, msg me first please bc that is very annoying and WILL GET YOU IGNORED! On the west coast so I'm not usually on until around 2pm

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        • This one guy in group was bragging about how it took him 45 raids to get to thirty. He then later complained when he got the vex that it was his 8th one.... I checked his grimoire and he only had 5 completions.

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        • Wait, you're still doing VoG... What? Why?

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          • I ran into this yesterday. Turns out two of the guys were using a rare auto rifle and one a rare chest piece. On crotas raid...

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          • I will run VOG normal with anyone. Running VOG hard mode from start to finish with randoms is painful. People don't understand the principle of taking cover. When your Heath bar turns red hide and recover. Death is permanent. Hard mode is frustrating if players are not used to working as a team and the VOG mechanics. Just because your level 30/31 doesn't mean VOG hard is a cake walk. VOG normal is a fun activity. VOG hard is a stone cold b$tch.

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          • If anyone is on xbone I'll help you through it

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          • You would'nt have that problem with me....never done the vog.

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            I admit I've never be at the vault on hard I would like to but finding the people to do it with is difficult, I don't just want to heat the vault I want to do it and enjoy the experience not rush through or cheese

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            • A guy in the tower invited me to help me out with Atheon on HM. So I join the group and ask if every one has done the raid before. Everyone says yes. So three of us get teleported and one of the guys outside says "omg, its glitched, I have a shield around me". I was like "#*(&#@*&@#@)(@".

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            • So I'm running VoG hard mode with my regular seasoned crew and one allegedly experienced level 31 randomer. At Templar I ask who wants the relic? Randomer says I do I do I do! We ask if he's done it before? Sure, lots of times, you can count on me! Ok then... We go down to the right side. After the second wave of oracles he's still not got the Templar's shield down. After the third wave we're shouting at him, shoot the Templar! Take his shield down! Shoot him! So he drops the relic so he can fire his BLUE hand cannon directly and ineffectively at the boss. We're so surprised that no one picks up the relic and we wipe.

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              • I have Oracle checkpoint on hard fancy helping me get through it this is as far as I got on hard, I won t be on until tonight though.

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                • Ran Crotas end for an hour at last checkpoint finally fed up ask sword guy do you even know how to flipping use that (kept miss jumping and dying) no...... Then why the flip have you been using it the past hour.......idk....... My life

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                • Edited by iRunOnCaffeine: 12/22/2014 4:41:21 PM
                  I'm just unlucky so I got the vanguard gear :/ Edit: I should clarify, I've done normal 5 or 6 times but no armor or primary weapon drops

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