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Edited by Cleanest_Peanest:
12/22/2014 6:47:34 PM
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Suros Regime in Crucible
I hate saying it because I've never cared, but I played crucible (not iron banner) for the first time in a while. 3 opposing guardians had the suros regime, as do I, but I prefer icebreaker. Every time I died, it was from a suros regime. I have a full upgraded VoC, and I would love to be able to upgrade raid weapons btw. I did not win one firefight with a suros regime wielder. Even if I shot them 4 times before they started shooting me, I still got demolished even though around 75% of my shots were precision, if not all. I have the suros regime (274) but not fully upgraded, and even I think it's a tad bit pure dickage at that point. I can't imagine how much anal 300 and above causes. People say that it's not that it's overpowered, it's just overused. Why would it be overused if not overpowered? If it is Nerfed, for -blam!-'s sake, only nerf it for crucible, which is something Bungie is incapable of learning. I strongly apologize for complaining about another exotic being too strong and never have, but I found this to be a tad bit annoying. I'd understand if the necrochasm was that powerful because bitches earned that shit, but not the suros regime. Keep in mind this wasn't iron banner, it was clash. And can we stop saying cheesing? Believe it or not, cheesing doesn't take me to Nippopolis to see Major Boobage.
Edit: Getting both ways in feedback, but I came to believe that, yes, the macrophalic* suros regime somewhat wrecks in dps, but it's more of a problem for all auto rifles causing constant flinch to where you think you're having a seizure, as pulse rifles and low rate of fire scout rifles leave a minuscule gap for players to get good quick shots in. Flinch should directly correlate with damage dealt or rate of fire of a weapon. If flinch changes, then suros would bother me as much. Even when I shoot people with the suros, I see their head fly back and forward like they were in a hardcore metal mosh pit. I knew this suros stuff bothered me, but I couldn't pinpoint what it was, so I assumed it was overpowered as one. I hope yall all get full raid armor from Cryp-blam!- for participating in this forum, even if you were a dick, but sometimes that's the only way to get your point across to people #co-op
*Macrophalic means pertaining to huge -blam!-ing cock
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1 ReplyI have faced that beast many times it annoying me soooo much. But then I got the vex (which I deserved!!!) and killed all those suros regime bitches. They don't deserve a strong gun like the suros. Vex mythoclast which is very hard to get can anal those noobs. But still I agree that nerfing it just a little is required
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If they are running Suros then snipe them at long range or crush skulls with a shotty. Every strategy in this game has a weakness
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19 RepliesI beat SUROS with MIDA 90% of the time, so I'm sure it can be beaten.
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1 ReplyYou should include and raid matchmaking weapon in crucible. Now that would make for an epic thread.
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Headshots do the trick. Try out the Badger CCL for a nice crucible scout rifle.
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4 RepliesNerfing creates an endless cycle of replacement. People like me cannot be nerfed so change how I play and give me variety by buffing less competitive weapons instead of attempting to nerf me which is impossible. I'll gladly play devils advocate.
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Sounds like lag comp. It's an Activision tactic they employ to bring in waves of freshly hooked 10 year olds. They want new bodies to buy 10-15 titles over the next 10 years. Basically the skilled and experienced players have more to lose and nothing to gain while the Noob will win gun battles he wasn't supposed to, thus having everything to gain and nothing to lose. In business, it's brilliant, but has nothing to do with fair and honest gameplay...
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Damage upgrades don't matter in the crucible. Plenty of people get wrecked by the Shingen. What distance was the engagement at? 9 times out of 10 a VoC will get rocked by a Suros in short to mid range combat. Scout rifles are purposely supposed to be awkward at these ranges. Switch to an auto, hand cannon, or fusion and put them to sleep. Scout rifles shine at long distance which unfortunately isn't possible on most maps. Also you said it's been a while since you've played, so you probably just suck
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4 RepliesI'm sorry all you ever see on here are people wanting weapons nerfed ...,there is nothing wrong with the suros I've played hundreds of matches and have never felt I am being over whelmed by the suros .... It's all down to the quality of the player ; sure in the hands of a skilled player it is a deadly weapon but I've completely dominated players who have been using it before (I don't own one) with a variety of different weapons .... I hated hand cannons at first now I love them ... Be calm , don't panic and just start spamming the trigger ... Pick ur shots of with patience and they are very affective It's like I said it's down to the player not the weapon ... People complain about the vex as well I have the vex maxed out and never use it ; it's ok but no better than at least a dozen other weapons in the game
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3 RepliesPlease stfu anyone can outgun the suros, my level 5 warlock with the marshal-a could. When I decided to yolo with the khostav I still came on top. You my friend, are a terrible PvP player if you cannot beat a suros
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Buff Suros!!
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9 RepliesSuros is an ongoing problem in the Crucible. Its combination of low recoil, high base damage, bonus damage from the bottom half of the club AND its ability to heal the person using it makes it a VERY difficult weapon to overcome in a "fair" gunfight. So you get guys using it who consistently win gunfights with it that they would lose with any other weapon in the game. So Bungie faces the same problem with it that it does with the Mythoclast. How do you rein it in for PvP, but not destroy its usefulness in PvE? Eventually I think they are going to have to take the same route that they did with the Mythoclast. Bump up its damage rating for PVE...but start dialing back its range in addition to the nerfs its perks have already have. They've made good progress with it, because Suros wasn't the dominating force in this Iron Banner that it seemed to be in the last one. When I lost I seemed to be losing to a much greater variety of weapons than IB 2.0, when It seemed every other time I was dying it was either to a mythoclast or a Suros Regime.
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Edited by cousin Neil: 12/22/2014 1:12:54 PMStop just stop you do realize they have nerfed this gun three times already
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3 RepliesMate, Suros has been nerfed 3 times already instead of complaining about a nerfing further why not make the argument to bungie to make pulse rifles more viable? Hopefully our will sell red death again great weapon and under used in PvP and pve
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I also use a suros regime from time to time in the crucible and the iron banner. I honestly have been downed by vision of confluence users and have done the same to regime wielders with the vision of confluence and shadow price.....a moment of silence for the unobtainable shadow price that will always be remembered............ It's a very good weapon but I wouldn't say it's over powered it's been nerfed once already, any more and it would no longer be an exotic.
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It was nerf ed for -blam!-s sake it had a damage and stability nerf.
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1 ReplyU have no idea what the attack numbers do. All they do is let your gun do 100% damage to certain lvls they do not add damage at all. 331 is max damage vs lvl 33 323 is max vs lvl 32 and so on.
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1 ReplyThe weapon balancing in Crucible is a joke. If you're not using an auto rifle or hand cannon as a primary you pretty much might as well forget it. The Suros is still way too 'efficiant' no matter who says it's now shite. It's so shite supposedly and yet so many players use it and own with it? Whatever; Bungie'll never balance Crucible, way too many auto rifle users would spit their dummies out if their bullet hoses no longer owned over all.
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Idk if they fixed it but there glitch on suros that makes you shoot faster while aim still get bonus dmg from perk
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It's cuz Suros is the only auto rifle that has that kind of distance. I roc my Suros usually in Pvp and I get the same treatment when I'm in close range against someone with a Monte Carlo, hard light, or vex mythos. Although the Suros is used ALOT in Pvp, others are too depending on the play style of the individual. The only reason you're getting taken out by Suros so much while you need is prob cuz it's the only AR anyone feels comfortable shooting at such a distance with. Ik if I was rocing my Monte Carlo instead, I would see that lil red dot and find the quickest way AWAY from it rather than try to engage a shoot out with it. Cuz 90% chance I'll prob lose, where's it might be 60-70% with a Suros depending.
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3 RepliesAttack value does nothing in the Crucible. Suros had its days before the nerf, now it's horseshit of a weapon, still the best AR ofc, but shit nonetheless. Maybe you're just terrible in pvp?
