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12/21/2014 5:06:48 AM
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Auto rifle are supposed to have fast rate fire and low impact.
There damage is multiply by the speed not like Scot thay focus more on damage and accurcy then speed.
Put more impact on auto and it be over power.
[u]Example:Impect x speed[/u]
Scout:100x1=100
Auto:1x100=100
What you want
Auto 2x100=200
That was an example not true impact and speed result.I chosen 100 to represent default weapon class purpose and 1 weapon class weak purpose.
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When they drop the fire rate, the impact goes up, so that example is horrible. It's more like this: Hand cannon = 80 impact 20 rof Scout rifle = 60 impact 40 rof Slow AR's = 20 impact 80 rof Fast AR's = 1 impact 99 rof It all balances to similar damage, but not exactly the same. The high rof without perfect balance is impossible to hold on crit spots. I love my shadow price and Suros. Not so much my AE or doctor nope that both have perfect balance. Of course 9 times out of 10 I'm using fatebringer anyways. And the remaining time is VoC. High fire rates just don't do anything really well. I would like to see the pulse rifles be the ones with high rof and low impact while AR's are between that and scout rifles.
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Don't forget about suros! It's like a full auto scout rifle that you can also shoot from the hip super fast if you feel the need. I love that thing.
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I love the Suros, but it makes me feel a little dirty. I also want a legendary primary so I can still use my secondary and Heavy exotics on occasion.
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Yeah I know what you mean, I've pretty much only been using it as my primary for two months now
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Edited by BalanceAngel_9: 12/21/2014 7:06:40 AMIf fire rate drop on auto rifle so the does the Impect Example auto gun 1 Impect 10 and fire rate 10 total 100 damage Example auto gun 2 Impect 10 and fire rate 8 total 80 damage. I use 10 represent weapon full possable status (depend on weapon) and 8 represent weapon loss. What you say make no sense or the choice of text you use dont.telling me if I pick a auto with poorest fire rate with it highest possable Impect auto can go it cause more damage. Auto weapon are not same as scout weapon where fire rate don't matter only it Impect.
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And if this is the direction they are going with Auto Rifles, count me out. There should be a weapon that fits my play style, not a one-size fits all Auto Rifle spec. What you are saying is ridiculous and not helpful. Look at any shooter and tell me that every weapon of a certain class has exactly the same specs (rate of fire, damage, reload speed, capacity, etc..), because that is what you are proposing.
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Edited by o JENMONKEY o: 12/21/2014 11:07:54 AMFunny, because they used to have weapons that fit my exact description. You're saying they shouldn't exist? Some of us prefer precision kills, accuracy and impact over unwieldy bullet sprayers. What is you explanation for the Shadow Price and the Vanquisher? Are you saying they are overpowered? I don't think so.
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Edited by BalanceAngel_9: 12/21/2014 6:28:02 AMNo those weapon were purposely given those states there fine.I'm saying if all gun were given those states or little more that be a problem. Auto Impect multiply by fire rate. Example Auto-10 Impect per shot.50 bullet every 1 second-500 damage total. Example Scout-30 Impect per shot.30 bullet every 2.5 seconds-900 damage divide 1.5 do to weapon slow fire rate against auto total damage 600. Look at that result I gave out.Impect.bullet each hold,fire rate and final result. Yes scout has more damage but they got high Impect but can still lose base on your health and other factors. Again default. No real weapon status. But giving weapon more boost then what needed can unbalance things.
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Look I get how the weapon stats work. I don't need the tutorial. I would rather sacrifice rate of fire for more stability and impact. All of which is accomplished with the Vanquisher. I was just pointing out that every new Auto Rifle in the game since the expansion is pretty much the same gun with different perks. We used to have more variety.
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I choose stability and Impect as well. As for rest I not surprise bungie hasn't done much to impress us. The game good but it could of been better. I made poll about how people feel about destiny last time I look at it the 1st play poll is The Game Good But Bungie Suck.
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Yeah, I agree. Bungie did give us a better story in Dark Below, but they blew it with the gear. If you are going to make my old weapons underpowered in high level missions, give me new weapons I like. Don't even get me started on the armor/ weapon upgrade crap. I must have farmed for 100k+ glimmer since Dark Below came out, just so I can have new gear to play the new Raid. Now I am so burnt out on Destiny I haven't bothered to start it.
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I hook on destiny like a cigarette. Can't quit even if it bad.
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Oh I will be back for more punishment soon, I am sure. But Bungie has made this game so disappointing lately. I worked hard to get 16 exotic weapons, all on drops, and 20+ exotic armor pieces, only to have them turn around and essentially make me buy them again if I want them with the new stats. All my pretty Raid gear is now too low to beat Crota (level 32? FU Bungie!). I just don't get what they were thinking. "Frustration Simulator" is an apt description of this game now. I have lost so many friends that I used to play this game with recently, they have gone on to other games out of frustration. I don't see how they are going to fix this.
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U can still use shadow it's still a good gun and the vanq has a 331 updated version out already
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You're missing the point...SMH.
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Did they give us crap ar's yes they did but the old ones are still good to go u want a reforge well I will bet if that happens ur gonna end up with a high rate of fire low impact shadow then ur gonna be real butt hurt
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Can't reforge weapons that aren't IB weapons. #dumbass
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O and only lame ass kids hashtag shit grow up lil man
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I am a 40 year old woman. See my name? Jen, short for Jennifer. I only hashtag ironically. I was trying to make a point. But since logic and rational thought eludes you, I will stop trying. Everyone else on this forum post is trying to be helpful, yet here you are trying to get under peoples skin- the definition of a troll. I will just continue to report you every time you post until they kick you off the site. Go troll somewhere else.
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Lmfao I was tryen to be helpful right until u got snarky grandma u have been rather dickish in most of ur comments report away idgaf what ya do
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Is that a sentence?
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No shit like I didn't know that already all u crybabie asshats that can't handle high rate fire ar's want to reforge ur old gear use what ya got or learn how to handle a high rate ar
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How am I missing the point smh?
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Edited by o JENMONKEY o: 12/21/2014 6:13:31 AMI was asking if anyone had run across a new, expansion weapon that met the specks of the examples I gave, and you are both coming back with "use your old gun" or "auto rifles are supposed to ...". Not helpful, but thanks.
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I stated that the shadow was still a good gun and the vanq has an updated version key word updated its a post dlc gun u got an answer and got snarky in return
