[b]BEFORE YOU SAY A HUNTER SOLOD THE RAID:
SO DID A TITAN! http://www.twitch.tv/mrpervysage/b/601364193
AND SO DID A WARLOCK (so stop b*tching warlocks) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut7xNTMF4iU&list=UUXEECTDpfL2bBJrYjv9_qvQ&index=1 .[/b]
Really
[b]THE POST IS IN REGARD TO HIGH END PVE RAIDS, NOT STRIKES, NOT SOLOING, NOT PVP[/b]
[b]ESPECIALLY HARD RAID SITUATIONS WHERE YOU CANT REVIVE PEOPLE[/b]
[b]my main point is that in a hard mode raid most player compositions are looking for survivability and team buffing, especially due to the nature of the difficulty. And hunters are kinda the weakest at that at times and sometimes the best (with a proper invisibility). I just want some team synergy for hunters for us to make more of team impact in Hard Mode raids.[/b]
Points that have been discussed: THESE ARE ALL PERTAINING TO PVE
-Golden Gun needs some adjustments in PVE, maybe a higher damage boost or the addition of being able to land precision shots with it
-Blade Dancer is lacking in the orb production department and is also very hard to use in certain situation such as the nightfall or any mission with lightswitch on
- Hunters are the only class that doesnt, by default, have additional elemental damage attached to our melee abilities. Blink strike doesnt do additional arc damage and we have to waste a spec point to add solar damage to our throwing knife
-Make it to where Hunter's Trance and Chain of Woe apply the strike team in a PVE situation only (not PVP). this would be great support for a team
[b]EDIT1[/b]: OkamiHydra made some good points in this post too http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/86131964/0/0/1
[b]EDIT2:[/b] Evillness had a great suggestion about golden gun apply a death mark of sorts on targets that would gravely improve hunters in a PVE situation and not un balance PVP READ THIS http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/86182478/0/0/1
[b]EDIT3:[/b] Ragthos also makes some amazing points about how Hunters have an identity issue. Are we really a full DPS class? Becasue it sure doesn't feel like it, he goes over many good points here IN DETAIL. Bungie please take a look at these. and thank you Ragthos for your contribution to the discussion http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/86293701/0/0/1
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Yeah but their so hostile omg
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Hunters can have a big impact on the team, I was doing the hard raid and we almost died because of an oracle fail but my golden gun killed Atheon.
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The only buff they need is that the Golden Gun should be able to land critical hits.
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bump for glory!
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I love this entire post. Really good points, really good ideas. Bungie needs to see this and put another thought into the Hunter class.
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I would like to see GG precision damage in PVE, I guess that's a start.
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Good thread, I've went on this tirade in a few threads, never made one about it myself. Hunters have jack for survivability because we should be the rogue DPS type against single targets, except we dont' do much more damage if any, than any other class. Anyways what I'd like to see added to our class 1.Blink strike should do arc damage, otherwise, it just totaly sucks 2.A Chain of woe style abilty, that grants 2% extra crit damage when we hit multiple headshots in a row.. Buff goes +2%, +4% +6%, base damage and repeats like that. Wouldn't average out to much more damage, but'd still give us extra dps when hitting headshots like or class "should" be. 3. Precision golden gun damage. If it isn't a class feature, we should have an exotic helmet that does it and we shoudl get a small buff to damge instead. A helmet allowing precision woudl be way more useful than our new one that allows us to zoom, whoop de do.
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I recently put my Hunter to rest (haven´t deleted him, but he´s now sobbing in a corner hoping for his day of glorious return), but I could still test him enough to know the pros & cons of the class. Let me see what I can add: -Golden Gun. As versatile as it is in terms of distance (possibly safest damaging super to use?) I agree that it needs some love in the damage department. Allowing it to land crits is a usual suggestion and it would work well. It fits the idea of a warrior that prefers accuracy to raw power so why not? -Blade Dancer While it is dangerous to use in such events, Arc Blade has that shockwave perk that practically does what Fist of Havoc does... but allowing a Hunter to do that 3 or 4 times! That should be the ace in the sleeve of a Bladedancer in hard instances - Hunters are the only class that doesnt, by default, have additional elemental damage attached to our melee abilities. .... Can you believe that I hadn´t realized this until now? IMO Hunters still have the best melee skills in the game but still... it´s true, at least Blink should have some basic Arc damage
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Edited by Lykaios113: 12/23/2014 9:03:03 PMAs a player that has leveled all three classes. I have to agree that hunters are extremely squishy. We need some buffs.
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Bump again, This needs more awareness, there are some very valid issues here that need to be addressed or at least noticed!
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Bungie? Deej? anyone listening?
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Bump again! lets get this to the front of #destiny
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This is so true because you have the Titan with their strike class (A ONE HIT KILL) you have the warlock with their void bomb (A ONE HIT KILL) then you have the hunter with their golden gun and blade dancer (BOTH MULTIPLE HITS TO KILL) so before anybody says that hunters are useless just remember what we have to work with and use so really we are the best ones if we have one hit kill supers and melee! If bungie would just buff our supers we would be very good but I'll even agree that hunters at the moment are useless and can't really help with much but that is because of how weak our supers are compared to the other classes so why don't you guys give us some credit for doing what we have done like solo the raids
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BUmp again, HUNTERS LETS UNITE!!!! like this and bump it!
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FYI golden gun has precision damage, however it isnt highlighted. Hit 2k on a vex body hit 3k in the precision shot
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bump and like, lets keep this going and get hunters some attention
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yes, i would like a radiance like armor buff when using golden gun.
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Quote from game "A lone wolf who lives for the perfect shot"Gun Slinger class description. Being a GS (Gun Slinger) Myself I feel a Bungie screwed us GS user over our super Is lucky to take out 1-2 elites in the VOG any difficulty and we gain no bonuses from our super ether. BladeDancers don't have it much better ether the plus to a blade dancer is invisibility and a super ability that alows a small AOE or a small damage wave of energy that travels along the ground for a short distance using about 10-15% of super energy I might add. For playing through campaign Hunter is a great choice and also for the lower level strikes but really lacks that DPS on anything level 28 or above means that warlocks and titans start to out proform. If we got a base damage increase perk for crits that also work for the whole team I think that people would start to appreciate the hunter more although this won't fix the lowest damage supers issue it would be a nice start.
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Edited by IrishTheSavage: 12/22/2014 9:33:03 PMI like blade dancer specially when there is Arc Dmg modifier the Razors Edge perk is really good in clearing enemies. This past Nighfall i even activated and killed Phogot with Blade Dancer melees! it was pretty epic lol
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bump this if you agree! COME ON HUNTERS LETS RALLY TOGETHER! UPVOTE
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I mean I feel that golden gun is good and better than other supers at Dps. 4 shots and I can deal significantly more damage than other classes. In vault of glass if something big needed to die fast I would gg it and it was something my team never had to worry about or waste heavy ammo on.
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Blink strike & throwing knife do elemental. Or At least they count towards the eris bounty for it. I say arcblade gets a sort of option like sunsinger for giving some of the buff to teammates, could give everyone in an aoe faster movement and more armor. But the dancer no longer gets attacks.