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Edited by Twick:
12/22/2014 7:49:28 PM
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Hunters need a buff for PVE. Are we truly a high DPS class? We need some answers.
[b]BEFORE YOU SAY A HUNTER SOLOD THE RAID:
SO DID A TITAN! http://www.twitch.tv/mrpervysage/b/601364193
AND SO DID A WARLOCK (so stop b*tching warlocks) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut7xNTMF4iU&list=UUXEECTDpfL2bBJrYjv9_qvQ&index=1 .[/b]
Really
[b]THE POST IS IN REGARD TO HIGH END PVE RAIDS, NOT STRIKES, NOT SOLOING, NOT PVP[/b]
[b]ESPECIALLY HARD RAID SITUATIONS WHERE YOU CANT REVIVE PEOPLE[/b]
[b]my main point is that in a hard mode raid most player compositions are looking for survivability and team buffing, especially due to the nature of the difficulty. And hunters are kinda the weakest at that at times and sometimes the best (with a proper invisibility). I just want some team synergy for hunters for us to make more of team impact in Hard Mode raids.[/b]
Points that have been discussed: THESE ARE ALL PERTAINING TO PVE
-Golden Gun needs some adjustments in PVE, maybe a higher damage boost or the addition of being able to land precision shots with it
-Blade Dancer is lacking in the orb production department and is also very hard to use in certain situation such as the nightfall or any mission with lightswitch on
- Hunters are the only class that doesnt, by default, have additional elemental damage attached to our melee abilities. Blink strike doesnt do additional arc damage and we have to waste a spec point to add solar damage to our throwing knife
-Make it to where Hunter's Trance and Chain of Woe apply the strike team in a PVE situation only (not PVP). this would be great support for a team
[b]EDIT1[/b]: OkamiHydra made some good points in this post too http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/86131964/0/0/1
[b]EDIT2:[/b] Evillness had a great suggestion about golden gun apply a death mark of sorts on targets that would gravely improve hunters in a PVE situation and not un balance PVP READ THIS http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/86182478/0/0/1
[b]EDIT3:[/b] Ragthos also makes some amazing points about how Hunters have an identity issue. Are we really a full DPS class? Becasue it sure doesn't feel like it, he goes over many good points here IN DETAIL. Bungie please take a look at these. and thank you Ragthos for your contribution to the discussion http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/86293701/0/0/1
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1 ReplyBlade Dancer might not be very good for harder instances of PVE, but Striker and Voidwalker aren't that good either. Gunslinger on the other hand... Gunslinger's Trance + Chain of Woe, a good aim and a decent Hand Cannon will let you clear an entire room before your friends even start shooting. Throwing knife is awesome if you can get precision hits. Plus, it can have DoT. Tripmine is fantastic, although it can kill you if you fail to throw it correctly. Golden Gun + Symbiote is pretty much the only offensive super worth it considering it can kill majors without putting you in harms way.
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1 ReplyGit gud
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1 ReplyMy skill lvl is far from spectacular, however as a hunter I don't think anyone I play with would say my contribution is lacking. I think there is place for any class played with a moderate amount of skill in any dynamic.
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Just my opinion... take it for what it's worth, but I feel like the way hunters help the team is slaying literally everything. Maybe allow golden gun to crit, but otherwise I think hunters are awesome. Btw I play warlock
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1 ReplyEdited by Hene: 12/21/2014 2:02:23 AMThe hell you talking about. Agility is my main stat with the exception of Crota and atheon fight. Don't mess with Agility. Though yes hunters are meh in pve.
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5 RepliesArc blade generates orbs like crazy in the lantern & bridge stage. Golden gun is great for clearing adds after that (specially if you have 4 shots.) Invis spec blade dancer can raise the bridge with out worrying about adds if for some reason all the gate keepers didn't get killed. They can also get in position to ghorn the F! out of the death singer easy. Agility is amazing for survivability (I die more on my titan and warlock in the raid than on my hunter - love that triple jump & agile dodging ability). Honestly, I would rather take a hunter than a warlock (sure they can cheese and self res, but their song of flames hardly helps and self res locks cause wipes like non other during crota - because of the over soul & they play like it doesn't matter if they die) I'm not saying all warlocks suck- I have played with some great ones and personally I love playing on my warlock, I'm just saying in my experience with randoms, I have had better luck with hunters in general being more experienced.
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3 RepliesI only think that hunters got the shaft in terms of supers versus mobs/bosses to be honest. Arcblade doesn't kill most equal level enemies in one hit so you have to waste meter on two swings, even with encore it just runs the meter down. Golden Gun does pretty much 3-4 shots that deal semi-flat damage that isn't really worth it outside of poping solar shield mobs. And both of them generate beans for orbs in PvE, it takes two arcblade kills on average for me to generate ONE orb most I ever managed to make was 4 and that was spaming showstoper in a crowd, Golden Gun is a little better, but only if you can kill high priority targets like say wizards, otherwise you generate a max or 3-4 orbs while a warlock or titan can generate 8 at a time or in the case of a defende titan 2 but the bubble gives other bonuses so that's excusable. Overall I think that orb generation is a bigger issue for the Hunter class, followed by damage to normal mobs on arcblade which wastes time and makes bladedancer's super subpar at best.
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BrothaMobFinal Season of Humans 2024 - old
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6 RepliesThe only thing I feel that Hunters need is a buff to Golden Gun or to make it so that Golden Gun can crit. A typical yellow health bar shouldn't be eating all 3 of my golden bullets like they're Twinkies.
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13 RepliesI hate when people cry about hunters being bad. No all the classes are great in their own ways. HUnters just complain more.
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3 RepliesPfft maybe hunter isn't your play style then. In nearly all my raids I have the most kills as a gunslinger. Go play warlock or Titan if you can't handle a hunter.
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5 RepliesGunslinger deffo needs a shield barrier of some sort
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1 ReplyI don't use a hunter personally, but I did watch a video on YouTube the other day of this guy and his friend two manning VoG on hard mode. He was a hunter and did an awesome job. Didn't really look underpowered to me.
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1 ReplyNo... Basically you want to dominate in pve and PvP.... Not gonna happen. Hunters kill things fast, that's their job.
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1 ReplyA head shot with a throwing knife in PVP should be a 1 shot kill. It is by far the most challenging attack to land in PVP. The risk/reward should justify itself. Currently it doesn't. Also, precision shots should be added to Golden Gun for extra PVE dmg. That being said Hunters are a really fun class to play.
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1 ReplyI beat hard with 5 lvl 30 hunters and a warlock voidwalker sooo
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5 RepliesFor me, being a hunter means to kill lots of shit and look good while doing it. I'm personally not a big fan of either of the other classes. Plus, the play style I have adopted by going through countless raids without radiance has seemed to make me nearly [i]invincible[/i]. I mainly play blade dancer on PVE and PVP because of the fact that I can blink to prevent a death if I have to, I can go invisible to revive teammates, plus I can blade dance my way over to locations very quickly to retake a totem, revive a teammate, flee, etc. And the wipes, ohhhh the wipes. For example, while doing Crota's End for the first time, I was the last to cross the bridge on the totems. On the gatekeeper side, all 5 of my teammates went down right as I crossed the bridge. I managed to juggle both totems and revive all 5 teammates at once because I can stay alive. Don't get me wrong, there are bad hunters out there. But the point is, a good hunter can stay alive, [i]but a great hunter can do a warlock and Titans job even better and doesn't need radiance and a bubble.[/i] And our cloaks are badass, am I right???
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6 RepliesAgreed for pve. Our supers are useless against anything with health. Pvp is fine
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9 RepliesOur supers are under powered in pve but everything else is great. Without hunters most fire teams would wipe. We do sometimes feel like a medic but it's part of the role. Plus agility is the best stat IMO. Keep on the move and not much will hit you
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1 ReplyI think the GS damage could use a dmg buff. Its fine in strikes but low dmg in raids. Bladedancers need to spawn MORE orbs.
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7 RepliesI believe them to be the best class for this raid...
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I have no complaints with my hunter, I contribute to my team by killing the most adds the majority of the time and with alpha lupi I can drop up to 9 orbs every time i go gold gun
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5 RepliesYou just suck with the class mate
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11 Repliesyour lack of skill needs a buff, stfu and gtfo with this garbage
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4 RepliesThe only part I think that needs a buff is golden gun just isn't strong enough. Kinda weak sauce in pve. PvP is fine though. All around.
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28 RepliesMy main is a hunter and you need to shut your mouth. No one needs a nerf or buff. The game was good since day one. Nothing ever needed a change, except take out the Damn RNG system. Shut your mouth and go sit in the corner fool. You're making another hunter ..... Pitiful gamer.
