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12/20/2014 5:46:45 AM
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Report, mute, avoid.
You kids have it so easy these days, with bullies that are nothing more than online trolls.
Some people had to go to school amidst daily in person taunting, and even physical assault. They would gladly have traded the ability to log off a device to avoid bullies.
The entire concept of cyber bullying is offensive to anyone who has had to or is currently dealing with bullies in the flesh.
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I have been through both. See, my "cyber bullies" were the people who bullied me in reality. They followed me into my gaming and whatnot so that I couldn't have a break. They turned 8 hours (school day) into 10-12+ hours a day.
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Then that is just straight up bullying. Report that shit. Real bullies or stalkers following their targets into the digital realm is a problem, but this isn't what the OP is even talking about. He's talking about randoms being mean.
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Now more on the OP's topic I shall correct you SLIGHTLY. It is not easy when those randoms add to a broken person's already awful mental instability. That is the greatest issue I have observed. It can lead someone with a hard REAL life to feel that they are not safe even in a gaming world. This can lead to speedy suicides because they act in desperation. A one time occurrence for a strong individual has little to say in how they feel; however, a weak individual could be pushed too far.
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How does that in any way help anyone? Teach people that they can block/mute. That will help people.
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Pretty much while I do not feel like writing it here I can assure you that if you knew me then you would understand my methods.
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When you're done floundering around trying to be cryptic, you're more than welcome to come back and have a conversation.
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Edited by VixenVoid: 12/21/2014 6:57:02 AMAlso, I like your wording. First of all how about we look at your use of "floundering"? I am not struggling. What I have to say is thought out and then posted, how do you see me struggling? Next, let us look at your description of how I am acting. I am not being "cryptic.l" There is no mystery here. Only the simple fact that you do not know me thus cannot see how what I do can help. Many people I speak to for the first time can understand even though you cannot. Make sure you use those words carefully. The better of the two was the use of "cryptic" as I can see why you may have thought that.
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You do seem to excel at using a large number of words to convey nothing. You've gone incoherent, mate.
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Let's see if this will convey my point to you. At 16 I can say that I have been bullied for half of my life. It has been both in reality and online. When it started online the people who bullied me in reality found out by eavesdropping on conversations I had with my one and only friend. They then made it worse but making a goal torment me for as long as possible each day. Finally, they pushed me till I was ready to kill myself. They pushed me to do it daily. People online called for it as well. So after a while of listening to 50-60 people constantly telling me to do it, I found myself in front of a pill bottle and a knife. I sat there and thought about everything quite hard. I put them away and decided that there had to be a better outcome. For once I had nothing left to lose so why not try. I turned things around by doing everything they had told me for years I'd never do. I began to change physically and mentally. My mind sharpened and my body got stronger. I half thought myself out of my living hell and half fought out (on a football field). Now I am more successful than any of my old bullies ever thought I could be. I have reached a new part of my life and I'm happy. Now, why tell you all of that? Well, I use the fact that I was as low as one can get but I found a way to succeed as an example to those I find living in that situation. I show them that there is a way out that doesn't include death. I show them that success is still within their reach and that all they need to do is grasp it. Next, I help them reach that point by giving them someone to lean on when it gets too hard for them to handle or by giving them a hand to pick them back up to get started or when they break and fall. All in all, I give them one of the most powerful mental driving forces there is, HOPE. Do you see what I have meant now? My points are as organized as possible. I have been conveying this message all along but I feel that it was lost in your attempt to pay no attention.
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It is all coherent thought but one must be willing to pay attention in order to see the point in someone else's argument. It seems that this entire time has consisted of me thinking things out and typing followed by you refusing to read it and just replying. You haven't actually fought what I've said this whole time.
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It is all coherent thought but one must be willing to pay attention in order to see the point in someone else's argument. It seems that this entire time has consisted of me thinking things out and typing followed by you refusing to read it and just replying. You haven't actually fought what I've said this whole time.
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It is all coherent thought but one must be willing to pay attention in order to see the point in someone else's argument. It seems that this entire time has consisted of me thinking things out and typing followed by you refusing to read it and just replying. You haven't actually fought what I've said this whole time.
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It is all coherent thought but one must be willing to pay attention in order to see the point in someone else's argument. It seems that this entire time has consisted of me thinking things out and typing followed by you refusing to read it and just replying. You haven't actually fought what I've said this whole time.
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I am being serious. If you knew me THEN you would be able to piece all of this together. Not knowing me and how I go about doing things,such as helping people who are bullied, prevents you from actually "getting it". Does that make sense?
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Well anyone is welcome, this is a PUBLIC forum. Just saying.
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Well yes I do that often but showing they can be stronger works a lot better. When you SHOW that something works they are likely to try.
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I am pointing out what many here neglect to see is all. That is the kind of thing that nearly destroyed me so I am bringing it to light. I was torn down to nothing but by being at the brink of killing myself I found the other option, start over. When reporting it failed I spent a long time rebuilding myself. I became a bully's nightmare, someone who refused to just die and instead became a symbol of hope for others. I put a hold on a bullying reign of terror and strengthen their targets. They still fail even in my absence. Problem with my story is that it took me nearly killing myself to have a chance to change. I hate that for those who still deal with it. You will see I am more or less here ensuring that nobody misses the specifics of bullying. That is why I'm hear friend. You are correct about the OP but again, I am just laying out specifics.
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[quote] I am just laying out specifics.[/quote] You're not doing very well at that.
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You have to be kidding me? You honestly think that cyber bullying is a joke and that kids have it easy today? It may be a joke to you but once some one you love kills themselves because of online bully's you won't think it's a joke any more.. This doesn't just happen online a girl can be assaulted at school verbally or physically then go home and have hate mail on their email or face book yeah you can shut down the accounts but then they start in on you on you phone and the. Back to school again for more assault... I had 10 kids at my high school kill themselves between 2008-2011 people I know and cared about and it was partially because of online stuff This isn't a joke and it shouldn't be taken lightly why is it so hard for you people to just support this guy for posting something positive? I feel sorry for you.. Have a safe holiday and I hope you can realize that this is an issue and maybe support it :/
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Kids that killed themselves? That's terrible but that was them.. They made that decision. There is no reason for suicide, unless one thinks of him self more valuable than everyone else. Suicide is the most selfish thing a person could every do.
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It's actually not.. Depression is a powerful decease that isn't yet fully understood by doctors.. Drugs do not work on every one.. If some one kills themselves I can tell you they are not doing it for show... They feel alone and to them it's the only thing that they have power over... And sometime the pain is so overwhelming that death is just easier.. Please don't be disrespectful and say that it is selfish because that is the last thing that it is
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We can teach kids to: Mute. Report. Avoid. And if needs be, they can turn off the device. You have no idea how much my 11 year old self would have loved the option to just turn off my computer to make it stop. Something that spills over into school, now becomes regular bullying. That should definitely be dealt with. You guys seem to be too busy trying to be outraged that you're not even paying attention to what I'm saying.
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That's like telling a kid who is being bullied in school to Run away. Don't listen to them. Hide in a broom closet. I don't think you understand what cyber bullying actually is. You should do some research on it. Yes calling someone a stupid piece of garbage is technically cyber bullying but that's not the stuff (I'm assuming) OP is referring to.
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[quote]That's like telling a kid who is being bullied in school to Run away. Don't listen to them. Hide in a broom closet. [/quote] No, it absolutely is not. How many times do I have to explain it for you guys? A person suffering through in-person harassment most usually does not have the luxury to just leave the situation. In an entirely online interaction, the victim has a multitude of tools to deal with the situation themselves. They do have the luxury of walking away by means of logging off. (The last resort, to be sure.) The problem here is that we are not educating kids about these tools.
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Actually I hear what your saying it is you who is not listening... One can only buy so many cell phones or change their email so many times And don't say you can just turn online stuff off If you work you need a phone or at least I do (I have an on call job) and my email is connected to my school and work.. I graduated about 2 years ago and fb is a way I keep in touch with old friends seeing pictures of wedding and thing of that sort A cyber bully can keep track of your new emails or fb or make new ones them selfs if you blocked their old accounts For the love of God stop living in the past and recognize this it is an issue and if you do not see that by now you are ignorant and their is nothing left to be said to you
