Iv taken a break from destiny since DLC dropped. I was not even aware that their were cheeses until you just told me. I have not personally beat crota yet (because my team was made up of level 30s) so I took a break for PC gaming again. BUT my team continued without me and can clear it very fast now with no cheeses. Honestly it is surprising people cant do it with out cheeses. I dont even think you have to be overly 'skilled' to do it legit. We will see how hard mode treats them. Bungie will more than likely iron out every cheese before then. I am sure they are still a little butt hurt over the VoG cheeses.