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12/9/2014 3:08:05 AM
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How is teaching them atheism any different?
Regardless, you're indoctrinating them into a particular belief system.
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Edited by Flawless : 12/9/2014 11:51:15 AMYou don't have to be taught to not to believe in something. Youre taught a religion. You don't teach a little kid not to believe in something. If you dont want a kid to believe in something. then just don't bring it up. There's no teaching or indoctrination in that.
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Edited by The Cellar Door: 12/9/2014 3:21:47 AMHow many times does this have to be established? Atheism is not a belief system first of all, and not indoctrinating them into a religion is not the same as indoctrinating them into atheism. I wasn't indoctrinated into Christianity, however that doesn't mean I was an atheist at birth. Being an atheist requires an understanding of what faith and what the concept of God is, and is not decision a immature mind can truthfully make. Do you consider everything that's not religious to be a product of atheism? Because by your logic, that's what you are saying. I am saying that religion is a mature topic that should not be tackled by a naive mind, or else instances of ignorance become apparent, so is it right to force this topic that we may be unqualified to force upon to our children in a very possibly biased method?
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Doesn't matter if it's a religion or not; it's a belief system. Either the child is indoctrinated into the mindset that their ABSOLUTELY is a god, or they are indoctrinated into the mindset that their ABSOLUTELY is no god. Either way, they are most likely not going to stray from what they are taught. Whether you choose to teach your child theism or atheism; you're indoctrinating them into a belief system.
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I see that Marxism has made a profound impact on your worldview. [spoiler]in all seriousness, a child is not religious, or even atheist at birth. By not teaching them about religion, you're simply giving them the ability to choose their own later. If one was to indoctrinate their child into atheism, it would have to be explicitly taught that religion is false. Simply omitting knowledge of a theism doesn't make someone atheist. Atheists believe that their is no god, and may attempt to disprove his/her existence(s). You cannot be an atheist if you do not know about religion. You cannot say something is a lie, just because you've never heard of it. I've never heard of you (until now), but that doesn't mean i denied your existence before. [i]"If I didn't know about God, would I still go to hell?" "Of course not" "Then why did you tell me about him?"[/i] [/spoiler] You assume that all animals, and young children incapable of comprehending religion, are inherently atheist. Go back to Olympus ;)
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My argument is it is better to teach them agnosticism. At least then they're actually open minded.
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Then please make it more clear in your initial argument that that's what you're saying.
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No, see that's the problem I have with your argument. It's so critical, when there is no reason for it be. GOD HAS TO BE IN THIS CHILDS LIFE SOME HOW SOME WHERE. PARENTS HAVE TO DISTINGUISH THIS FOR THE CHILD. HE EITHER EXISTS OR HE DOESNT. Uhh, no? Simply not bringing it up and allowing the child to live without telling them a biased opinion on God is NOT telling them that there is ABSOLUTELY NO GOD...You can let this child find out what they want to believe for themselves you know? Or are you scared that if you did so, your child wouldn't believe? Or they would join a different religion? Are you scared that without a forced indoctrination into your religion, your child will not indoctrinate themselves into it? Your argument is pitiful really. I know you have a hatred for atheism, which is ostentatious itself, so your saying "if I don't force them into believing what I believe they will turn out to be something I hate." Oh and Atheism is not a belief system. Learn what the word system means before you use it. You know, nevermind, I'll define it for you. System: 1. A set of connected things or parts forming a complex whole. 2. A set of principles or procedures according to which something is done Obviously, atheism falls pretty short of this; atheism is the lack of belief in a deity and nothing else. It isn't a belief. It's the lack of one. If three people go to Taco Bell and two get tacos, the third does not have a taco, he lacks a taco. And you're trying to tell me not having a taco is a form of having a taco.
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You can't talk sense into someone so anti-human. This dude was justifying newborns getting murdered and millions getting slaughtered,he thought it was perfectly fine in a different thread.
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Seriously? [spoiler]better -blam!-ing link me that crud[/spoiler]
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Edited by wizardeiges: 12/10/2014 12:19:53 AMSeriously bro. Here you go : http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/83260760/0/0/1 His quote to I saying god was a tyrant and killed newborns and little kids with its flood magic: "The Great Flood was justified. The world was full of -blam!-, murder, and stealing. There were no innocent bystanders; they were all evil." "Those children you mentioned? Had God not purged the planet, they would have grown up into bloodthirsty rapists. " To me,a book that tells you killing newborns and babies is perfectly alright and justified,is one of the most disgusting -blam!-ing things on this planet and i've seen some -blam!-ed up shit. He also seems to think that human life is worthless because we're so small compared to the universe..yep.
