And I have evidence from the ToO stream that it won't be nerfed/nurfed.

LOL, you suck majorly if you can't counter Thorn. I've countered it with Hawkmoon, Hard Light, Red Hand, supers, shotguns, melee Quit crying for nerfs and GIT GUD

Give it a rest. Nerf suros. Nerf mythoclast. Nerf the last word. Just give it a rest. Tired of hearing the complaints.

Maybe you should get better at countering Thorn. It's not impossible. Also, it takes skill to use it, accuracy isn't all that great with Thorn.

And then you all will move on to the Vex and Red Death being OP, because the group using thorn and tlw, will have moved to the next quickest ttk weapon. You people don't get that, you are essentially destroying the game one gun at a time. I especially and personality hate the Vex, every game I've been in has at least 4 people using Vex, 3 + using Red Death/Suros/Mida, 1 to 3 + using thorn/last word, and the others what ever random weapons people use just as much but aren't considered OP-Oversoul, juju, WoC, Mida (every where, that's up there with Vex in usage), 3 little words, atheons epilogue, any scout, etc. Im talking between both teams to clarify. Thorn is annoying if anything and facing a team where there's at least 4 of them does sucks because 2 people can shoot you once each right after each other and get the dot to proc. With that said though I rarely die to the DoT from Thorn , and when I kill people with it I maybe get 2 a game. I don't just shoot and stop, I shoot to kill and I won't stop until they're dead from bullets or in have to reload. There is a difference between overused and overpowered, but essiantially any gun that is overused gets labled overpowered. You guys killed the Suros, screwed the Vex up back and forth, nerfed pocket infinity into a conversation piece, brought about the death of most auto rifles, screwed up heavy ammo in crucible, screwed up snipers by bitching about special ammo..already ruined most fusion rifles and get hit again with ammo nerf. Where was all this bitching last IB about Thorn and TLW? Virtually non existent but you all cried about Felwinters and Red Death. How about the times before going back to the first week of the exotic buff? Yea there were threads, very few here and though about it. All you pve players, xmas, and post xmas noobs come out of the woodwork now that the helmet is available and experience what it means when they say Power Matters. More than 80 percent of people who bitch about it 1. Don't have it 2. Are level 30 snd below. 3. Ran into a team where at least 4 players were using it. Which happens with many other guns especially the Vex. People still overuse Suros as well. Last night there wasn't a game I played where thorn users outnumbered the Vex, Suros, or Red Death. None of them are OP, just annoying. Lag is the worst of them all

Tbh I prefer hawkmoon for the same reason, it takes skill to use. Thorn is for noobs/scrubs

And then people are going to be yelling "BUFF THORN!"

Everyone knows it's a broken weapon. Trouble is the crutch-using fuccbois who use it are louder than people who actually have a head on their shoulders.

People seem to forget that it takes [b]TWO[/b] Headshots and the Burn to kill.

Me no have Thorn! Me get owned! Me want nerf! Me so honorable that I use crummy weapon in PvP! I'm so sorry the First Amendment protects 'honorable' clowns like you.

[spoiler]its not the gun... It's you[/spoiler]

Screw you whiner

I'm awful with thorn Those 2 headshots are a bitch

Two well aimed shots to the head+ burn damage= a kill. I'd say that's more skill than spraying with the last word.

Op is a fgt

Two headshots plus burn is a kill. Body you have to get at least 3

I constantly beat thorn with vision/fang/mida.

Actually its does take skill bc if ur bad at aiming its not a 2 hit kill even with burn you have to hit crits. But if they should nerf thorn nerf red death