[quote][quote]So, I've tried doing the Templar on hard mode after this most recent patch in two separate groups and failed miserably both times even though we had 5 lvl 30's each time. Both groups decided that the best method was to have all non-relic holders stay up top and snipe/rocket the Templar since there are so many Harpies below. I feel like there has to be a better way because this didn't work out very well. Any tips? Preferably by people who have successfully completed it on hard after the patch.[/quote] Use titans to put up bubbles at teleport spots, than have them run to Rutgers bible for orbs[/quote] I meant have them run to each other's bubbles to pick up orbs