Okay, I don't see whats the big deal about letting 29's into the Hard Raid. I've done it and I'm 29, I last longer than the 30's most times. Screw levels its about knowing what to do and not dying so quickly and working together! I've done it with only 2-3 30's and got through it.
A few tips if you're a 29 doing Hard Raid or even a 28
Also tips for Norm Raid too
(And I know Bungie been messing with us while raiding cause there's times were the relic would disappear before time ends or your ToV disappears quicker than usual etc etc.)
For Atheon:
1. have your guns maxed, and have at least one Oracle Disruptor gun/raid gun.
2. try to open the portal quickly and kill the Suplicants before they get close to you and get to high grounds to avoid a Suplicant exploding in your face once the portal opens
3. don't jump once Times of Vengeance is done, you will die by bubble shield that traps you
4. If ALL 29's are teleported, 2 people kill the enemies (relic holder and one of the Oracle killers) and the third guy could throw down a grenade and use a raid gun to at least survive the few oracles that spawn until the enemies are killed and your partner is back shooting oracles with you
5. MOST IMPORTANT! Stock up on Synthesis! I usually have 20+ on my character just to be safe
6. You don't always have to ask which side, stop being lazy and look at the damn mini map! It shows you which side they are on!
7. You can either have everyone go to the middle and shoot at Atheon or take cover and shoot at him while the relic holder uses his special on him. It will help if you had a titan with weapons of light, place bubble, people run through, BAM! Weapons of light
Gorgons:
1. NO GLIDING! NO JUMPING! NO HITTING WITH MELEE! NO SHOOTING! Etc. The gorgons will turn around and someone is most likely gonna get caught
2. Stay together! Usually get by the maze quicker even with getting chest.
3. Use the left path for the chest, there's a small river, follow it. There will be one Gorgon you have to get past and thats it. (Might post a vid later on which way I'm talking bout but I suck at video making for games *cries*)
4. Don't be the douche to get caught...
5. You can get the chest and die then start over and run through the maze or you can get chest and try to run through maze without dying
Templar/Oracles:
1. Avoid getting marked. Stay away from fanatics. Be careful of your surroundings meaning enemies.
2. When the Oracles appear so will hobgoblins, stay hidden to avoid their fire or you can have someone snipe/shoot them, but they will keep spawning
3. When the oracles appear you need three on the right and three on the left. The two closest to the middle/ stairs should check if the middle Oracle spawns and shoot it.
4. With the templar, you can have the relic holder and an extra stay up and destroy oracles, or have relic holder stand in a corner just to cleanse. Whichever floats your goat.
5. Solar grenades (warlock sunslinger) and I believe Pulse grenades (titan striker) work on the Templar, ya know what I mean
Opening the gate(very beginning)
1. 2 on each portal everyone should know that
2. Call out pretorian
3. Don't let pretorian step in the portal thingie
4. Keep it up for at least 3-5 min without interruption and it should open quickly
Extras:
These work for both raids, besides the bubble shield trapping you at Atheon, only happens on hard. Try to stay alive, if you're a warlock revive yo self. DONT FORGET SYNTHESIS. Also it would be a lot better if you had a mic, unless people know that you know what you are doing. Oh and don't be greedy when its ToV(time of vengeance) jump out at 3-5 sec
How to use Relic:
L2 to Cleanse, gotta wait for grenade to refill before you can cleanse
Jump and press R1 and you'll do something similar to the titans fist of havoc
R1/R2 is to hit
L2+R2 use special were you shoot a big ball of energy at enemies, or Atheon
(Its really not that hard people!)
If you read this all I applaud you! Cause this is a lot to read, comment, use it, I don't care.
Need help with Raid? Add me with the message saying 'Norm' Or 'Hard Raid'
Psn is Kitty_the-dave
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Question for all, when using the relic on atheon, when you come out the portal how do you create the bubble that shields from atheon for the 30 seconds he is vulnerable? Or is it just the cleanse